by KnightleyPaine » Sun Dec 10, 2023 7:13 pm
I feel like this is kind of muddled because in its original iteration, "snuff films" referred to where an actual person is being murdered to produce the film.
Despite there being a lot of different terms for fetishized fantasy death however, the "snuff" label became widespread because of magnification through the film industry. The movie 8mm for instance, stars Nicholas Cage as a detective investigating an alleged snuff film, and the idea that somewhere out there are people rich and evil enough to do this sort of thing is just believable enough for the public consciousness to peg it as a possible thing to exist in our time.
As such, "snuff" has been used by more people when first coming into contact with any concept of fetishized death because it's often the only term people knew, and it has since taken over to mean any sort of fetishized fatality, whereby it's usually a broad over-category similar to vore, because the exact method of snuff is often important to people having this fetish. Someone who wants to fantasize about dying of drowning often does not feel the same about dying of disembowelment or gunfire.
This misnomer happens all the time because of how language evolves via public consciousness. "Otaku" is a respectful honorific regarding the master of the house up until enough people use it sarcastically to refer to a shut-in in a derogatory manner, then due to pop-culture changing the reason for being a shut-in is ever more tied to the local nerd culture due to a tendency of introverts to pick those up, particularly in regards to manga and anime. Then people from across the World start labeling themselves this thinking it means fan of manga and anime, and to these people in those language spheres that becomes true. If enough people use it in a way so that it becomes the public understanding, that's can become what it means now.
So now "snuff" has come to mean either the original iteration of fetishized murder, or all fetishized death. For the latter, whereby the venn diagram of overlap with fatal vore just becomes more or less depending on how the fatality is expressed.
What I've found as an iron-stomached person who has at one point or another at least entertained everything at least once to determine whether or not it can be my thing is - that in fetish, there is a constant amount of 'othering', where no matter how niche someone's list of fetishes is, they can always manage to have that one arbitrarily set bridge too far where the people into it must be sick in the head and its existence is evil. This can be anything from homosexuality, feet, furries, NTR, scat, vore, loli/shota, death/"snuff", guro, and so on and so forth. I've seen it go as dumb as bisexuals being into any sort of heterosexuality even though that is literally included in the label, and a lot of cases of Spiderman pointing at other Spiderman level of two fetishes any normie would knee-jerk into finding abhorrent with people into one thinking the other is sick and evil on both sides with utter conviction, like a Furry and a Brony each thinking their community as worthy of empathy but the other is wholly degenerate.
So we get funny shit like in here, where the vore fetishists are throwing the abhorrent, barbarous snuff fetishists under the bus (which is very contraproductive, they're into that at times, I tell you) because we are the misunderstood people that just have a little fetish that people need to have empathy with but fuck those other guys with the fetish we don't understand - they are sick in the head and wholly twisted.
IMHO the emotional need to not overlap with a category out of knee-jerk reaction is unhelpful. Whatever the name is for fetishized death, it absolutely crosses the venn diagram even with the fluffiest type of fatal vore where the fatality is fetishized. The only contention is how encompassing the "snuff" label actually is, which is wholly contingent on its meaning in the public consciousness and in no way up to our community alone.
Currently, as the label is used like on F-List or anywhere with porn tags, everything with death just gets a snuff label, in which case yes, Fatal vore is snuff, and it should be okay because the definition of snuff has become a porn tag that just covers all instances of fantasy fetishized fatality ("Snuff Film" however, is still a specific thing that involves real murder). But curiously, Eka's itself doesn't do it that way with any consistency - then again, Eka's is overall also pretty horrible at consistent tagging in general. We can't tag art right for shit, there's literally several tags for the same thing where the only difference is whether the word has a space in it, and whether or not it's capitalized, or even slightly different expression and that's after the many people running overtime on at least trying to get tag votes going right preventing complete anarchy. We are to tags what the Warrior Cats Wiki was to Warrior Cats facts before the accuracy overhauls, so I'm going to say the local opinion is the cultural outlier.
