Have you ever had somebody shame you for your preferences?

[Licklash]

Now, this is probably going to be my first real thread that takes a more serious turn. If this accidently turns into a clusterfuck, then mods, smack it out of existence.

Has anybody ever been told that their Vore preferences are unnatural/ weird/ gross/ bad/ ammoral/ etc? I'm quite curious to see what I get in terms of responses but I'll also be more than happy to make sure that this thread is a positive place for people to feel validated in.

I'll also be very interested in hearing any stories or general thoughts on the matter as a whole, as long as conversation is civil and organised; I don't want to accidentally create a Battle Royale.

I used to have a friend who was very much into Vore with animals, monsters, anything bestial at all. I would show them lots of my Vore works but when I would attempt to show them any works with humanoid predators that did not fall under a monstrous look in some way, they would say that the pieces weren't good because they were "Not natural" and that they would be much better with a more bestial predator. When I would draw feral prey paired up with humanoid predators, I would get yelled at or met with disgust because "It wasn't natural" or "It should be the other way around". They only liked my Nagas and other Taurs when they were 100% monstrous; even a relatively human top half was enough for them to rag on me. When I would ask for more humanoid nagas in our art trades, they would huff and attempt to guilt me into asking for something more beastly. They were one of those "Respect nature" types as well as being a raging misanthrope, basically, a hot mess who I'm glad to not be talking to anymore.

[WorkInProgress]

I've never been shamed, but I have received... disappointed comments from watchers for writing stories that end in fatal digestion on DeviantArt, so I only post endosoma there now. I've also seen pretty good vore art on DA that ends in digestion get sacked, but yeah, nowhere near as bad as your story.

[MeTheMe]

That is a really sad, disheartening story, it's always real sad to hear someone being judged for their preferences, but I do hear about it from time to time. I hope you're better having cut them out.

I have not been directly shamed, not that I remember at least, but I think everyone on the site can say they've seen posts from the other side of their preferences saying anything they don't like is terrible, unnatural, or gross. I can ignore 'anything that isn't fatal isn't vore!' comments well enough myself, but you can always spot a fight brewing with people who clash on the topics. I try to make sure when I say I don't like something, that it simply isn't my thing, there's nothing wrong with someone else liking it, and I think a lot of the community has gotten a lot better about that.

[Licklash]

I've never been shamed, but I have received... disappointed comments from watchers for writing stories that end in fatal digestion on DeviantArt, so I only post endosoma there now. I've also seen pretty good vore art on DA that ends in digestion get sacked, but yeah, nowhere near as bad as your story.

dA is really bad in terms of submitting Vore unless you find yourself a good circle, but even then, the community on dA is so picky and willing to bash that it's just not worth trying to cater to them no matter what you do. People are so divided that you can never please everybody. Don't let them dictate what you want to do, if you wanna do fatal, go right on ahead! Don't let them guilt you or try and force you into doing what they want, it's only going to knock down your skills and confidence.
It's still really bad regardless, and I don't want anyone to feel belittled. I'm sorry to hear of your bad luck on that site, friend.

[jaggedjagd]

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[Licklash]

That is a really sad, disheartening story, it's always real sad to hear someone being judged for their preferences, but I do hear about it from time to time. I hope you're better having cut them out.

I have not been directly shamed, not that I remember at least, but I think everyone on the site can say they've seen posts from the other side of their preferences saying anything they don't like is terrible, unnatural, or gross. I can ignore 'anything that isn't fatal isn't vore!' comments well enough myself, but you can always spot a fight brewing with people who clash on the topics. I try to make sure when I say I don't like something, that it simply isn't my thing, there's nothing wrong with someone else liking it, and I think a lot of the community has gotten a lot better about that.

Much better since September, they were overall a terrible person and as of now, I've found myself in much better company. I thank you for your empathy. It still hurts sometimes, but with my SO and of course some good ol' feral prey art that I draw in my spare time as a bit of venting, I'm far happier now than when I was with them. (: )
I've been lurking for a long time and I've seen how as time goes on, people have calmed down a lot more about preferences on this site. Anyone now who usually says this kind of stuff is now jumped on, at least from what I've seen. However, threads about Pet peeves or turn offs are still rather unpopular amongst some, some consider them to be bait for flame wars.

[fieldmousse]

they would say that the pieces weren't good because they were "Not natural" and that they would be much better with a more bestial predator.

I expected this thread to be more about non-vore people shaming vore people. Is the vore community eating itself?

[doltonutani]

There's nothing funnier than someone getting all upset and going "incest is gross and wrong, you're disgusting!" on communities about eating people.

It takes a special lack of self awareness honestly.

[minakotomoka14]

I have been lucky enough to not hear any nonsense from people about my preferences so far, but if that ever were to happen, I`d just ignore them. Let`s face it, some people are trolls, and it`s better off not to feed them. They`ll die off soon enough.

[Chameleonette]

Countless times.

When I first delved into the fetish about four years ago, M/F vore was pretty much non-existent. At the time, I didn't understand why, since I was new to the vore community, bright-eyed and bushy-tailed. As I was soon to find, liking male preds and especially M/F vore was largely unwelcome, looked down upon, spoken out against spitefully, made fun of, etc. And instead of turning tail and leaving (though I did consider it at the time), I decided to grab the bull by the horns. I questioned the lack and immediately decided that I was going to start creating the content I wanted to see, not just for myself, but for others like me who might come into the fetish and see that their preferences are not embraced and have trouble finding people to enjoy them with.

Well, being outspoken and loud about my interests in M/F vore turned me into something of a target. It was especially bad on tumblr. Although there were also people here who would also complain---including someone who would post in the threads that I made about male preds and complain that I made 'too many threads about it', when I made literally 3 in a whole year, and one who eventually got banned for publicly harassing me and saying he even created a new account just for the sake of said harassment. I had some past issues with people posting rude comments on my art at times, too, and being laughed out of Eka's chat years ago when I was looking for male preds to play with my female prey character. But the anonymity that tumblr supplies basically became a platform for people to ridicule me and accuse me of all sorts of things, including things like 'breeding rapists' with my content, being sexist/misogynist, countless complaints and even citings of 'proof' of why female preds should be the only 'true' preds, claims that I'm against women, a gross and terrible person, and someone who even said they would imagine me in vore scenarios as a pred and get off to it. Needless to say, it wasn't a very fun time. I left my vore tumblr and Eka's several times for several months at a time during some of the rougher bouts. Eventually, I got to the point where I just started to sass everyone who sent me nasty messages or delete them entirely. And at that point, I was committed. What these people aimed to do was to discourage me and likely stop my content flow of the things they didn't like or want to see. Giving them that would a major mistake, especially since I had a lot of fun making said content and getting all that M/F out there for the niche group of people that enjoyed it.

Things have gotten a lot better since then, although that did go on for several years. But now I know quite a few people who enjoy the same sort of content as me and things are a lot warmer in those groups and in a discord group that a friend of mine created. Now the most discourse I get on tumblr is occasionally someone who takes issue with me liking fatal vore. And that tends to be more of a passive-aggressive thing than the hostility that I met previously for my preferences of M/F.

But yeah, it was a big issue for me when I was first getting started here and for several years after. As a woman who enjoys fantasies of dominant men and loves and enjoys fatal and rather darker aspects of M/F vore (and humanoid preds), my preferences didn't fit very well in a community like this. A lot of people can't differentiate fantasy from reality and thus relate things like enjoying M/F (especially on the fatal side) to things like sexism, anti-feminism, etc. But with perseverance, I've made my place and found other people to enjoy that space with and I enjoy making and sharing content. I don't let the crap get to me anymore, the few times I'm faced with it any longer. And although I have also heard from several people over the years who struggled to get out of lurking because they were afraid of backlash and being unwelcome for M/F prefs, things have gotten infinitely better.

The real key is, when someone shames you for your prefs and what you like---love it harder. Make more content. Discuss it more. Ignore them, sass them, let them know that they can't stop you from enjoying what you enjoy. Eventually they're going to give up and move on. For anyone that has dealt with any type of hostility or rudeness like that, the best thing you can do is not give them what they want. Don't let them have power over you and your actions or to chase you out or stop you from being vocal about what you like. Yeah, it sucks when people send you nasty messages or parade around loudly about disliking what you like, etc. But they can't stop you. And you can and will find other people that enjoy what you enjoy if you look hard enough. Keep your head up!

[Cowrie]

I haven't ever been shamed per se, but I have had people in RPs basically try and bully me into doing things I don't like. When I was new here I had a particularly bad experience with someone who kept insisting my character was a "giant" when I'd outright stated her height at five feet and on top of that added scat-play without asking me. I've also experienced people trying to bully me into RPing on a chat when I'm not comfortable with that.

[MidnightRose]

On here, yeah. I've basically been told that M/F is "wrong" and was nearly chased out of a thread some years back because the OP took my preferences as a personal insult. There have also been some passive-aggressive people trying to guilt trip me, as well as others, for liking what we like.

[Borealis]

Directly, once.

I received a rather nasty PM a couple of years back. My feral she-wolf shenanigans really rubbed this lovely person up the wrong way. The words "just fuck off and join a bestiality forum" were used. I just deleted it.

I've seen grumblings about ferals in vore here and elsewhere on other occasions too. There's a real doozy of a toxic thread on that macrophile.com forum when some poor guy starts the conversation and a few people go on about how wrong it is too, it's eye-opening when you see some of these peoples opinions on your fetish bread and butter :/

I like to think that this sort of thing represents less than 0.01% of the community, though. A community that I think is superb, on the whole. The breadth of all of our preferences is wonderful!

[deathknight]

meh honestly I ignore them and move on. or I would be happy to point out that fetishes are porn fantasies and engaging in them in real life is disgusting. That's why fantasies need to stay as a fantasy. Makes for some good reads too when people write them down as a story.

[Komsomol]

There's one guy, I know him for a very long time. For a majority of that time, he made an impression of 100% "normal" person, in fact he was so "normal" that I would never ever speak about vore in his presence, he probably wouldn't understand such a bizarre fetish, right? Well, as it turns out, he is (and always was) a fetishist much worse than me. Unlike vore, his sexual interests are found in the real world, but I cannot express here how twisted they are. I, as a person that can tolerate all kinds of shit, genuinely think that his fetish is gross. Perhaps "normal" people feel the same about vore.

[Theguythatdoes]

right now, the closest thing to being shamed is the lower amount of M/F vore (my favorite type in fact) than most, if not all pred/prey preferences. while it's certainly out there, and for the most part is constant on this site,on other sites it's rare to see it, unless you watch a user that specifically does M/F. And also the fact that I really only like Oral vore and anal vore, and the only other pred/prey preference I have is F/F, so that narrows me down when someone does M/F cock vore or M/F+M/M or M/F+F/M. I'm not saying you can't do it, in fact, you should be able to draw what you want, it's just that because of how limited my preferences are, it's hard to find art I like. actual people shaming me, the closest I''ve come to that is the troll that appears once and a while on DA. I don't really get negative comments because on most sites I talk to and watch people with the same preferences. Sorry for going off topic.

[Syro1999]

Hope there aint any shame when I post this but I've been shamed on multiple occasions cause i sometimes play as an underaged character or just enjoying the thought of other underaged characters sure sounds weird and all but I wish to be young again but hey i found the perfect site that has a whole part of it for underaged play https://www.f-list.net/

[Humbug]

Yup. It hasn't been very bad in the last few years, but I used to get a lot of shit for my fatal vore preferences, and it got so bad once that the guy wound up getting himself banned by mouthing off to Eka after I reported him for harassment. That was the worst of it, though. Usually I can just take a small gander through a person's gallery and favorites, see what sick garbage they're into, and point out that they're being hypocritical and selective about which kinks they shame, and that they're probably just going after fatal vore because it makes them feel icky, not because of any legitimate moral standpoint. Mentioning that enjoying violence in movies and video games isn't really that different, and that the sexual element isn't that important often helps too. Most of the people who've been legitimately upset by stuff I've drawn (and not just trolling, which I ignore), I've been able to talk down and get to see that they're just being oversensitive about something that is ultimately not that important.

[GBBG]

I've never been shamed, luckily, but that could change as I'm uploading a lot more content now than I used to. I don't want to accidentally shame anyone else either, so I always try and word my posts about various topics carefully to avoid upsetting anyone.

[merlovinit]

Hmm, maybe I'm lucky to produce M/M vore, because annoying straight guys are never going to seek out my work in the first place. =P

I have run into some people who give me a generally weird vibe or that just make me sort of uncomfortable. Like, getting off is more important to them than some basic social etiquette.

There was recently someone on a discord channel that started DMing me to request I draw their character. I said that I pretty much don't draw that type of content, but maybe I would do it someday. Their response was that I should do it for the practice, and also that I'd better never draw their character as a prey or else!

At this point I was sorta done so I just said "k" and they went so far as to tell me that my response wasn't very convincing. Because apparently someone who just said they don't specialise in your character preferences is going to start producing artwork you didn't ask for? Like, what??? At some point this person also said they were popular in that particular discord channel which pretty much just seemed like a passive aggressive threat.