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Postby four_fleets » Fri Mar 25, 2016 6:03 am

2016-03-25 05:35:15 [Wrestler -> Pantone] you are a lovely character
2016-03-25 05:36:48 [Pantone -> Wrestler] And you're not much of a writer.
2016-03-25 05:37:47 [Pantone -> Wrestler] Hmm.
2016-03-25 05:45:00 [Wrestler -> Pantone] you are mysterious , sexy and graceful character
2016-03-25 05:45:32 [Pantone -> Wrestler] Yes, but I'd bet you can't explain why.
2016-03-25 05:48:33 [Wrestler -> Pantone] because your figure is awesome. curvy body , lovely ass. your character is not human , not look alien . it is mysterious
2016-03-25 05:49:09 [Pantone -> Wrestler] But it's not. That's an empty compliment.

Her written settings had Pantone as a common object.

2016-03-25 06:03:52 [Pantone -> Wrestler] Hmm?
2016-03-25 06:05:34 [Wrestler -> Pantone] i like your ass so much


Please save empty compliments for people who care less. I had a good night before this happened.

I have full permission to post logs.


2016-03-25 06:11:42 [Pantone -> Wrestler] Can I quote you anonymously?
2016-03-25 06:15:05 [Wrestler -> Pantone] you can take my name also for it
2016-03-25 06:15:27 [Pantone -> Wrestler] And I may use it as I see fit?
2016-03-25 06:15:56 [Wrestler -> Pantone] YES
2016-03-25 06:16:43 [Pantone -> Wrestler] And will allow anyone else use for it as well? Even if they are not me?
2016-03-25 06:17:16 [Wrestler -> Pantone] yes you can
2016-03-25 06:18:02 [Pantone -> Wrestler] Yes, but can anyone else as well? "Can They?" being the question.
2016-03-25 06:18:44 [Wrestler -> Pantone] no only you have powers.
2016-03-25 06:19:33 [Pantone -> Wrestler] Yes, but that wasn't what I was trying to clarify. Would you be fine if anyone else used any of this as a quote?
2016-03-25 06:22:09 [Wrestler -> Pantone] if you allow any one he can use. i will not allow any one to use it as quote
2016-03-25 06:22:43 [Pantone -> Wrestler] "Any one he can use"?
2016-03-25 06:25:41 [Pantone -> Wrestler] Be more specific, if my friend liked the quote enough to repeat it, can they use it?
2016-03-25 06:28:33 [Wrestler -> Pantone] yes after your permission they can
2016-03-25 06:29:08 [Pantone -> Wrestler] Alright, thanks. Anyone who wants it has my permission, then~

And all of you, feel free to quote anything from this.


I wasn't given permission to quote an Admin's logs and clarification on the matter, but an on-site admin in the Out of Chat room clarified and allowed this, only noting that both parties must've given consent.


Please, read the profile at least a little bit before you approach someone.

*edit*
2016-03-25 06:11:42 [Pantone -> Wrestler] Can I quote you anonymously?
2016-03-25 06:15:05 [Wrestler -> Pantone] you can take my name also for it


I would've left it private if he didn't say that.

Clarifying something. I gave him a shot before- even started two scenes. Seven sentence paragraph starter, other guy ignored it entirely and posted single-sentence with half-formed "Eat Me" sentence. At this point I'd asked him not to message me on SEVEN characters. It's either this, or I ask the Admins to make a more abrasive decision on the matter.
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Re: Why you should read profiles instead of oggling eye cand

Postby Gendor » Fri Mar 25, 2016 6:51 am

It's a common problem, this brings up the issue however that people who will only watch your "eye candy" isn't people who will take this to heart anyways. If you find a person who will read your whole profile, great, they probably didn't need to be told this because they were actually looking for a scene where both could have fun. If the person only wants to jerk off, this won't stop them, it may stop one or two to actually write to you but I don't think it will help.
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Re: Why you should read profiles instead of oggling eye cand

Postby Punpun » Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:07 am

Interesting. I agree with you, and I've also been approached by this person but wasn't quite interested in them (mostly because of their attitude.)

However I don't think what you've done here is ethical. You may have had permission but it didn't seem like this gentleman knew English very well. Also, even though you did have permission I don't think revealing the name of this person was the right thing to do. Think about how you would feel if the shoe was on the other foot.

I'm not lecturing you, I'm just saying that I don't agree with what you've done by revealing his name. It's a matter of privacy.

EDIT: Eh... Nevermind. It seems like he's a repeat offender. I honestly don't know where I stand on issues like that...
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Re: Why you should read profiles instead of oggling eye cand

Postby Aickavon12 » Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:11 am

huh. Interesting. - Gnome
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Re: Why you should read profiles instead of oggling eye cand

Postby Doku » Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:32 am

Now, to be fair, Pantone's profile is slightly sparse. That said, I think it's pretty obvious that Wrestler cared very little for your actual profile information. His stated preferences vary drastically from the preferences that would be associated with a unique 'medical transportation' associated character. While a character like his 'could' be played opposite yours just fine, it would require awareness of the appropriate ways in which they would meet or interact. A simple read of a single short paragraph would indicate that the traditional "Hey sexy, I like your ass" approach has no business being there. Had he approached with "Does Pantone ever 'play' with those she transports before they arrive at the hospital? I had a scene in mind where she shuttled my character to the hospital after he's injured in a fight. Maybe with some funtime before," it would have been much more apparent that he was paying attention.

It's pretty obvious from the context that he wasn't.

Honestly, though, where this gets egregious in general is not usually over the matter of 'content.' It's over kinks and preferences. You are being treated more or less as an object to fulfill the fantasy. Your kinks and preferences (which are very specific, clearly laid out in the short paragraphs of Pantone's profile, and particularly unique) are not on his mind. Only his kinks and preferences. When this occurs, it is usually downright obvious, quickly, and extremely irritating.

There is a habit I encounter frequently where people will look at a character and openly ignore any reference to preferences and kinks, assuming you'll morph to their tastes. Or, just as bad, will approach having glanced over your preferences enough for a gist, and suggest that they will change theirs to match. Now, some shifting? To be expected. But, for example, when someone who is listed as Gentle, Soft, No Fatality, No Digestion. No Pain comes to me and suggests "Well, I wanted to try you out..." I know that they're not paying attention to the wants nearly so much as they are desperate to get in a particular character's pants and willing to do whatever it took to make it happen.

Either way, sympathies. Like I said, I think Pantone's sort of unique concept makes it pretty obvious the types of play you want. Some random dumb dumb poking you for a quickee isn't on that list.
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Re: Why you should read profiles instead of oggling eye cand

Postby FlareRocker » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:55 am

I've made it a rule/demand on my groups that everyone must read bios and descriptions of characters before approaching them with roleplay.

For one, I hate people randomly approaching me without reason(Meaning that they must read my profile). I also rather have private roleplays, yet everyone keeps on making mine public. I also demand that you must at least have a minimum input of three sentences(Because I know some people aren't exactly the best at roleplaying, and my medication inhibits processing). I even state it around the first paragraph of my character profiles, so it's the first thing they see.

Then again, ever since I posted that, as well as the lack of a picture for this character I have been using(Let's just call her Gwen) character(Fairly new character), I haven't gotten any responses at all.
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Re: Why you should read profiles instead of oggling eye cand

Postby acrylic » Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:37 am

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Re: Why you should read profiles instead of oggling eye cand

Postby crion1 » Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:39 am

The other player sounds a lot like the garbled, borderline nonsensical output from chat AIs, the kind that try to learn how people communicate and use that to communicate back. Of course, that’s not what’s happening here; this is the product of sublime stupidity, not sublime intelligence.

That particular idiot has approached me a few times, on different characters, with mostly the same MO. It confuses me—deeply—why people who have no writing talent or skill and lack even the wherewithal to try to improve bother to RP at all. Arrogance and stupidity explain the belief that competent writers will find them palatable, but one hopes enough rejections would eventually instill some dreary acceptance, or at least inculcate a drive for self-improvement.

Then again, there’s a dreadful paucity of competent writers around here in the first place, so, yeah.
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Re: Why you should read profiles instead of oggling eye cand

Postby Radijs » Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:46 am

Or you know, maybe there's a lot of people on the chat room who are there just to typefuck and don't give a crap about a six chapter history that they're going to forget about the moment they get their rocks off.

It's a PORN CHATROOM after all. Not the Oxford university for english literature.
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Re: Why you should read profiles instead of oggling eye cand

Postby Artemis » Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:52 am

Two kinds of people.
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Re: Why you should read profiles instead of oggling eye cand

Postby crion1 » Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:55 am

Porn shoots still want big dicks and thick tits, and hopefully a passable face if you plaster it in enough makeup. If you’re making the whole thing up, your ability to render the scene in a believable, enticing way counts for something.
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Re: Why you should read profiles instead of oggling eye cand

Postby xionzappa » Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:55 am

Their first post was a compliment to you. Your first post was an insult to them. Yes, alright, so they're not quite on your level of writing and yes, perhaps you wouldn't enjoy an RP with them, but there are way more polite ways to go about saying no. And the public shaming really doesn't help.
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Re: Why you should read profiles instead of oggling eye cand

Postby Jeffos » Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:06 am

When I get the impression someone's just commenting on the pic I usually go something along the lines of "Thanks, I like the picture too" and let it go from there. Usually doesn't go too far -- but sometimes it goes a good way! I agree that you didn't really need to engage them that way, if you get the impression you won't like talking to someone just ignore them or give a flat but polite response.
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Re: Why you should read profiles instead of oggling eye cand

Postby Suibelly » Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:35 am

If you'd like to be constructive you really shouldn't instantly insult someone who compliments you. This really was not the correct way to handle this.
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Re: Why you should read profiles instead of oggling eye cand

Postby xIso » Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:36 am

As someone who has had to deal with him and his alts, I can assure you that he's not the typical person that you run in to on this site. From what I've heard, and asked about, people first check the preferences, then the picture, then the rest of the profile. He simply goes right to the middle, then jumps in to trying to get you to RP with him. He has few standards, and is awfully desperate.

Then again, just my two cents.
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Re: Why you should read profiles instead of oggling eye cand

Postby Nekhet » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:12 pm

A trick I used to use on my more descriptive character profiles, where reading it was a must I'd put the image in the description as a word or string of words connected to a link to the picture, usually somewhere in their appearance description. It means the people who just scroll through your profile for their pornography leave assuming you have none and those with the desire to read it will find the image. Regardless, I'd rather someone appreciate the art than have an empty criticism about my writing thrown in my face. Remember they are a person, perhaps English is their second, even third language, they could have disabilities or simply a poorer background with less opportunity for education. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy very literate partners and as such avoid the chat room and instead seek them myself.

You can't quite expect people not to judge your characters by their pornographic image on a pornographic chat room, especially if their reading skills aren't quite there yet, you're both there to get your rocks off in one way or another, don't judge them on how they do it.
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Re: Why you should read profiles instead of oggling eye cand

Postby Jeffos » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:13 pm

To be fair, further discussion made it obvious he wasn't really complimenting the character herself, so "you should't instantly someone who compliments you" is not a proper rebuke. Insulting someone who messages you for any reason is not really constructive, though. I can understand why the op got upset because getting random 'compliments' in this style often leads to an unpleasant conversation. Its entirely possible I'm wrong about my assumption about why that person messaged the op but that's another reason to be polite.
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Re: Why you should read profiles instead of oggling eye cand

Postby kernac » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:15 pm

I feel it is a bit mean spirited to make a whole thread dedicated to shaming this person. I mean sure he's not a great writer and he's a bit superficial but that's just how some people are. As someone who often plays female predator with sexy pics I often get people like that, for the most part they just go away when you tell them you're not interested and I feel it isn't that big a deal. I already had a lot of encounter with this particular user, and every time I just politely tell him I'm not interested and he leaves me alone.

I mean, obviously he isn't very good, but from the way he writes you kinda get the feeling english isn't his native tongue. I'm not interested in RPing with this individual but maybe there are people who'd be up for it, people who don't care as much about writing skills and such.

I dunno, I just feel this offense isn't deserving of public shaming.
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Re: Why you should read profiles instead of oggling eye cand

Postby SorryNo » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:35 pm

I don't understand the big deal here. Is it really such an inconvenience for you to just decline their offer and ignore them if they keep going? They may not meet your standards, and that's fine, but publicly shaming them does nothing for anyone. It humiliates them and gives an impression that you'll go off on someone the moment they do anything you don't approve of.

At the end of the day, it's roleplay chat room. If you're expecting 100% of people in such a room to read every word written on a profile, consider your interests and account for other criteria then you're going to be sorely disappointed. Whether they should or should not is irrelevant. It's their prerogative to approach or not approach based on whatever they see, just like it's yours to say no and end it there.
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Re: Why you should read profiles instead of oggling eye cand

Postby coop500 » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:54 pm

To be honest from Pantone's profile by itself there wasn't a whole lot to read. And I agree with most of everyone here, both of you could have handled it better and making this thread helps nothing.
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