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Postby Siorche » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:36 am

Does anyone else feel a little offput by this? Like, i go to a profile, like what i see. Everything lines up, I'm interested-but before the end of the profile I just come across a rant saying "If your character is so and so or so and so then I don't want to play with you" and sometimes, the statement is so broad you don't even want to bother to know if you fit into their spectrum of 'suck' or not.

I encountered that in a few profiles and it just made me uncomfortable to approach the person and I felt like, I don't know. Shouldn't people be able to make characters as they please and not be judged for it, artists be able to draw pictures they desire and not be classified as "generic anime weeboo bullshit"

I just wanted to know other peoples thoughts on this, because it seems kinda counter intuitive, if you rant on and on about what you dislike, won't you actually scare away the people with similar interests?
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Re: OOC Rants in profiles

Postby Thebob » Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:01 am

People are able to make the characters they want. People are able to have preferences about who they will and won't RP with. Just because someone's preferences for RP exclude others doesn't mean it is at all a bad thing. A person who only wants to RP with female furries isn't judging people for not playing female furries. A person who only wants to RP with people whose characters are 18+, or human, or whatever aren't judging others for RPing characters that don't fit their preferences just because of that.

This isn't to say that people aren't judging what other people RP, just that having preferences and stating their preferences isn't a bad thing. It just shows who they will and won't RP with. Just like artists will and won't draw certain things, or authors will and won't have certain characters or certain situations.

I think you may also be a bit vague in that you seem to be solely complaining about people listing there dislikes. Are you talking about people who are putting others down for their RP preferences, or was my interpretation at first accurate and it is just people listing what they won't do/don't like?
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Re: OOC Rants in profiles

Postby Siorche » Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:06 am

It was moreover along the lines of people who list what they don't like to RP with and say it "sucks" or whatnot. I've seen that in a few profiles, and people condemning fatality as well, condemning perma for whatever reason. And even going sofar as to condemn players who like digestion. I'm trying not to make broad statements but i'm not sure how to be more specific with this. I've just seen varying degrees of comments and sometimes even a bit of passive aggressiveness in profiles regarding all that. Heck. I've even seen people with "Avoid this person" lists.
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Re: OOC Rants in profiles

Postby Liz » Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:52 am

Yeah some of the OOC comments can be rather crazy, I’ve found character with rules sets longer than their characters description and if someone breaks said rules the owner of the character will perma-mute them or do various other things. I honestly avoid these type of characters.

There are other Players who are hell bent on hating Perma Vore, Scat, Digestion, Hard Vore, Real Life photo characters and even Endo characters. They even have a large OOC paragraph saying how horrible a person is to like some of the things mentioned about and one or two of these players have asked for RPs or what no from me even though I have things on their list of doom and evil. They even harass other users who like what they detest and attack people for enjoying what they enjoy.

Overall people need to let others enjoy what the site allows and people with such OOC rants just scream to me the player is not someone I would enjoy RPing with so I avoid them :)
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Re: OOC Rants in profiles

Postby incubite » Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:12 am

It's offputting, certainly, but I find it just makes it easier to know who to avoid more than anything? At least that's probably a cynical way of looking at it but I always find descriptions like those say a lot about the people who wrote them. If there's a lot of "this sucks that sucks" then they're probably pretty judgmental or pessimistic, at least you would have to assume as much seeing as someone's profile is kind of like their way of advertising themselves.

It is definitely counter-intuitive, at least in the way that I think you're talking about? You don't want someone's first impression of you to be a negative one so if you have a huge chunk of negativity in your profile, of course it wouldn't exactly be inviting.

As far as sliders though it's kind of like... I've seen people create custom sliders just so that they could put their male slider/digestion slider going past -100, usually accompanied with descriptions like "NO!!!!!!!!!!! Don't even TALK to me". Like if you don't like X preference that's fine, but it seems kinda... rude? Immature? Like if you get approached by males or whoever else despite the male slider being at -100 then extra emphasis might be necessary, but whether being rude or extra negative about it is a valid solution kinda depends on that person's experiences, maybe? I find that, in general, people try to take advantage of you if you're nice, whether they're aware of it or not, because there's no repercussions if they're insistent. I've told people straight up no as politely as I could, had them continue to press for a scene, told them no again and then had them cuss me out before blocking me. That's happened a few times. If you want to say no and you're rude right off the bat, though, they're probably more likely to leave you alone more quickly because it gets the point across a lot better than "oh no thank you". I like to think that profile/slider descriptions are the same way.

That being said I don't want to sound like I'm condoning rudeness, but I also understand if people feel like they have to be rude. I don't agree with those people and I think they end up acting kinda like dicks but that just means I have to avoid them and keep looking.
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Re: OOC Rants in profiles

Postby SinfullyHungry » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:15 am

I know what you mean. I generally avoid anything who feels the need to include a rant. A polite list of dislikes? Yes of course that is fine. But so many need to rant, and their list of very specific dislikes is sometimes so long its ridiculous, and they have a tendency to threaten people in some way or other. I've seen one or two on other sites which went so far as saying they'd call the police.

The most disconcerting one I had was when I was new to Eka's and I approached a guy with an idea based on his slider. He immediately had a melt down, saying he wasn't here for vore and he wanted to find friends. I was like . . .oh for gods sake! This is a vore site. . .
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Re: OOC Rants in profiles

Postby eatmeplease » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:52 am

What a moron! If he wants a friend here, he should roleplay and make friends that way!
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Re: OOC Rants in profiles

Postby Siorche » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:23 am

He had a melt down and said he wasn't there for vore? I mean, I know a few people like that-not there for vore. But even they just politely decline rather than going apeshit. I really just sit back and think, would it be considered a form of kink shaming if people have that all over their profiles? and if so, isn't that against the rules?

And I have seen people with the custom slider for males just go past -100, i agree thats super immature and the like.

I've heard horror stories of people who've permavored characters and just getting harassed out of end for it by anti-perma people. I myself don't understand that, but I suppose that could be thread for another day.

I'm just really astounded people feel the need to possibly insult other people just over their preferences, its like normal civil communication doesn't exist to a few people when it comes to RP.
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Re: OOC Rants in profiles

Postby The Saint of Ravens » Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:16 am

That's because a lot of people ignore a very simple guideline for fetish sites such as this: Fap in peace, and allow others to do so as well.

There's no need for drama, no need to cause problems, no need to bring personal attacks into porn. Just sit in your computer chair with dick in hand or digits in vagina and do your thing.
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Re: OOC Rants in profiles

Postby Doku » Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:30 am

There is a fine line that some RP'ers cross between being appropriate and 'firm' on their preferences and coming off as judgmental, rude and demanding. Being firm in your preferences is almost unilaterally a good thing. It helps to avoid feelings of dissatisfaction during and after a scene (or worse if a person feels pressured into a scene). Being aggressive without cause generally is a turn-off to most of the RP'ers on the site. If there's a valid reason given, it's sometimes a bit more permissible (I can think of one or two who give a valid reason for being as aggressive as they are in their profiles on a very specific topic, but I would feel it rude to name them.).

On the "P" word, Renael, I would suggest that is an entirely different topic and affair that carries a wealth of additional arguments and discussions, ones that probably aren't worth bogging things down. A topic, as you said, for another day.
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Re: OOC Rants in profiles

Postby Liz » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:40 pm

The Saint of Ravens wrote:That's because a lot of people ignore a very simple guideline for fetish sites such as this: Fap in peace, and allow others to do so as well.

There's no need for drama, no need to cause problems, no need to bring personal attacks into porn. Just sit in your computer chair with dick in hand or digits in vagina and do your thing.


Such a lovely statement ^^ I agree with it. People need to learn their fetishes are not the only ones on site and other allowed to have their likes too.
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Re: OOC Rants in profiles

Postby Aces » Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:12 pm

If you're gonna have rants, keep them on your blogs I say. :P

Or just, you know. Don't rant. But I'd be a hypocrite if I said that because I just made one a couple nights ago on my blog just because mental breakdown and shit and lousy lousy evening (feeling better now). I mean some times people have to vent, but don't put them on your roleplay accounts... I mean come on. If you don't like something, don't reply to it, or better yet, politely decline.

I know when I see rants against certain groups of players in profiles, I have less interest and less respect toward them, even if it's something I can sympathize with or even agree with. Keep the characters in character. Keep the rants on your blogs.
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Re: OOC Rants in profiles

Postby Baz » Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:24 pm

I often ask a simple question: Is anyone, or any living creature in RL, harmed by this for the gratification of others?

The answer to that question is the same as: DO I have a problem with this?

We're a fringe enough community as it is, we don't need to divide further and form cliques. If you don't like something someone does, that's cool. I've never understood the whole permavore delete-your-character thing. I don't get it, but I don't bash others for it... the only real issue I have with that is when people try to force it on others - ie "I ate you. You cannot reform you must delete your character now"


But then, that's forcing your preferences on people, and that's NEVER right.
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Re: OOC Rants in profiles

Postby Aces » Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:13 am

Baz wrote:I've never understood the whole permavore delete-your-character thing. I don't get it, but I don't bash others for it... the only real issue I have with that is when people try to force it on others - ie "I ate you. You cannot reform you must delete your character now"


I just wish there were a way to properly delete your account. I want to make new profiles and often I find them occupied by squatters or a dead or PKed profile. Admittedly I really do not like that permavoring practice leaving accounts vacant and un-used.

But the new chat code is supposedly going to fix that problem. Something about the current code has fucky effects if you try to delete accounts, because the PMs attached to them don't properly go away, creating a privacy issue. Plus then I can delete profiles I just don't use anymore instead of having to tell people to go PM an admin if they want the unused account.
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Re: OOC Rants in profiles

Postby DragonsFTW » Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:35 am

Yeah, there is a certain not to be made here.

Noting in your kinks that you down't want to do this or that as it's not to your liking, that's perfectly normal.

However it becomes ridiculous when people go talking down on other's people's kinks, calling them out on it and whatnot. Another thing i've seen frighteningly often is people completely blocking a certain gender/species (especially for males this is a huge problem) just because they had a couple bad experiences with some.
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Re: OOC Rants in profiles

Postby scottypilgrim » Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:48 am

DragonsFTW wrote:Yeah, there is a certain not to be made here.

Noting in your kinks that you down't want to do this or that as it's not to your liking, that's perfectly normal.


However it becomes ridiculous when people go talking down on other's people's kinks, calling them out on it and whatnot. Another thing i've seen frighteningly often is people completely blocking a certain gender/species (especially for males this is a huge problem) just because they had a couple bad experiences with some.
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Re: OOC Rants in profiles

Postby Aces » Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:57 am

DragonsFTW wrote:Yeah, there is a certain not to be made here.

Noting in your kinks that you down't want to do this or that as it's not to your liking, that's perfectly normal.

However it becomes ridiculous when people go talking down on other's people's kinks, calling them out on it and whatnot. Another thing i've seen frighteningly often is people completely blocking a certain gender/species (especially for males this is a huge problem) just because they had a couple bad experiences with some.


I think I'm seeing a slight double-standard here.

Double-standard or no, I know it does get pretty irritating for people to continually ignore preferences and ping profiles when preferences don't support what someone is looking for. That doesn't mean it's okay to rant about it on your profile, as that is just disrespectful to the community, but it does get very aggravating to be harassed like this. If someone doesn't like males, it's probably not because they had bad experiences to lead them there, but because they ALREADY didn't like males and yet male players kept harassing them until they basically made a big fat "fuck off" section of their profile. Both sides are wrong in that regard.

I don't have this problem a lot because I tend to play heterosexual scenes, as they are just more appealing to me regardless of what gender I'm playing, but I do occasionally have a similar issue when female characters approach female characters. I just don't enjoy it. Yet they're rarely aggressive about it. It's the males who are more aggressive. Call me sexist if you will, but this is a pattern I've seen before, and I've had some very unkind things said to friends of mine playing female characters who just weren't interested in them because they were poorly written characters. Hell, I've probably said some unkind things in the past when I was younger and more hotheaded. Moral of the story is reaching the age of 18 does not automatically mean someone is mature enough for a website like this. Just means they're legal. The part of one's brain that understands consequences doesn't come fully online for another few years, and I believe that's the part of your brain that goes, "Maybe bitching this person out or ranting isn't going to accomplish anything."

That being said, am I ranting now? Well not intentionally. You see what I'm trying to say here though, right? I don't want to come off as ranting when I want to make a legitimate point. Not just shit on your parade like these profile rants we're discussing.
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Re: OOC Rants in profiles

Postby Chryseum » Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:02 am

DragonsFTW wrote:Another thing i've seen frighteningly often is people completely blocking a certain gender/species (especially for males this is a huge problem) just because they had a couple bad experiences with some.


The reason this is so common is simply a very strong dislike. This isn't always done to an extreme or a rant, though, as it may be done for different reasons. I myself have blocked of a few certain species in some cases, but it's simply due to the fact that I can't bring myself to enjoy any RP that I do with them. It's really just a case of "I wouldn't want you to not enjoy it, so I avoid this because I know I can't."

In any case, it's still better to let the other person know that by, instead of ranting, simply saying "Sorry, I don't really enjoy RPing with this," Then explain. Being more subtle and less of a rant about it allows you to possibly compromise something to still RP with that person. So it's not necessarily a bad thing to block off a certain species or gender, you just have to not reply like an ass if someone fails to read what you dislike.
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Re: OOC Rants in profiles

Postby player1 » Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:27 am

Aces wrote:
DragonsFTW wrote:Yeah, there is a certain not to be made here.

Noting in your kinks that you down't want to do this or that as it's not to your liking, that's perfectly normal.

However it becomes ridiculous when people go talking down on other's people's kinks, calling them out on it and whatnot. Another thing i've seen frighteningly often is people completely blocking a certain gender/species (especially for males this is a huge problem) just because they had a couple bad experiences with some.


I think I'm seeing a slight double-standard here.

Double-standard or no, I know it does get pretty irritating for people to continually ignore preferences and ping profiles when preferences don't support what someone is looking for. That doesn't mean it's okay to rant about it on your profile, as that is just disrespectful to the community, but it does get very aggravating to be harassed like this. If someone doesn't like males, it's probably not because they had bad experiences to lead them there, but because they ALREADY didn't like males and yet male players kept harassing them until they basically made a big fat "fuck off" section of their profile. Both sides are wrong in that regard.

I don't have this problem a lot because I tend to play heterosexual scenes, as they are just more appealing to me regardless of what gender I'm playing, but I do occasionally have a similar issue when female characters approach female characters. I just don't enjoy it. Yet they're rarely aggressive about it. It's the males who are more aggressive. Call me sexist if you will, but this is a pattern I've seen before, and I've had some very unkind things said to friends of mine playing female characters who just weren't interested in them because they were poorly written characters. Hell, I've probably said some unkind things in the past when I was younger and more hotheaded. Moral of the story is reaching the age of 18 does not automatically mean someone is mature enough for a website like this. Just means they're legal. The part of one's brain that understands consequences doesn't come fully online for another few years, and I believe that's the part of your brain that goes, "Maybe bitching this person out or ranting isn't going to accomplish anything."

That being said, am I ranting now? Well not intentionally. You see what I'm trying to say here though, right? I don't want to come off as ranting when I want to make a legitimate point. Not just shit on your parade like these profile rants we're discussing.



i don't want to legitimize any kind of verbal brutality, but i feel a there's a perspective missing there.

Let's create newbie A as the stereotypical newbie arriving in the chatrooms. Newbie A is just discovered eka's or has been lurking at it for a while and decides to tempt his chance with rping. Of course, newbie A is generally a male that as Ace mentions is barely 18-25 years old, has no real experience with roleplaying than the usual sterotypes about dnd. newbie A chreates a character, what gender? Well he's a male so let's aim for low and make his first charatcer a male. now with the species. Newbie A always watched the furry fandom from afar and may like a monster girl or two, but he prefer his char to be what he know's more, human (of course we can create the newbie A bis whoo into furrry even before joining and creates the average male deer, husky). Achievement get! Create a character! "Now now.." ponders newbie A "am i more into being prey or pred?" and the majority of you peeps know the answer.

Newbie A or A bis jumps in the chatroom! He doesn't even know where to begin with and what's happening, he quickly gets his way into the vore room. The vore room is made of 80% females characters, WOOHOO might he think, should he not? Of course there's no guide in how to approach peoples and rarely Newbie A majored communications at college, proven he's in one, so he decide to poke at characters in the room, this of course after numerous one liners he posted like the sheakespear we're most of us at the beginning. we all know the general treatment reserved to such posts, in their original cyan or white color that helps Newbie A stand amongst his peers to get RP. Anyway, so Newbie A thinks "Yeah, kinda i don't like M/M and im pretty meh with H/M, let's go for females!" with the remnant of his experiences in head. Tough luck.. he commited his first error, not looking at one's profile! This gets him a "no thanks" on rare days "im not into males' in less good days and a frosty welcome coupled with a mute for the bad days.

Now, newbie A and A bis, who generally doesn't know RP, hasn't got any training save for the rare benevolent ancient who may help him some and gets mutes plus an harsh (to say the least) way of discovering the chat does what? On the first scenario, he ragequits and his reaction varies from newbie to newbie, on the second hand however he goes on and on, either creating a female character because he realised the nu;ber of pubs/pings exploded if he did so or, rarely, keeps on his male character, develop it and goes with it. Now, to get back to Ace's post, let's follow the latter case. Newbie A keeps on, finding some nice rpers he stick with while chatting in ooc in the vore room. What does continous harsh refusals and for some, blatant discrimination leads to? Grief. and that's what im pointing to>

Here we let dozens of newbes goes, without much help like.. i dunno a quick guide (when you get ignored and refused, it becomes a bit evident a "tips and tricks on a good rp" is the link to click on) grow out of such things as the usual treatment newbies get, and later on if they're still here they grow grief toward the peoples that first ''welcomed'' them and this leads to what ace showed, violent verbal shitstorms because of prefs. this can also be applied to fur character players but less than the whole F/M vs F/F clashes

Now, im not saying this behavior is good nor that OOC rants in profiles are made by stupids, but i say we should look at the source of the fire more than the flames themselves.
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Re: OOC Rants in profiles

Postby Aces » Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:01 am

I'm pretty sure we have such a guide already for this website.

EDIT: Yup. http://aryion.com/content/roleplay
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