Rules of credibility

[Blonner]

Friends of vore (and dolcett/femcan) what are normally the rules of the dolcett world (in case of a series and not one shot) for avoid rapidly the civilization collapse for too much eating?

[IddlerItaler]

Nobody says it has to be sustainable. What if the civilization IS going to collapse, just it hasn't happened yet? All those "This bright young adult could have been a doctor or a scientist, instead they'll be just fat on my figure", piling up, will eventually take their toll on a society. A society functions because you trust your barista not to poison your drink and your bus driver not to send you down a cliff, so all those preds going "You were such a fool for turning your back on me for a split second while passing me on the sidewalk" will send social trust down the gutter.

But if the legal fatal vore society isn't going to collapse, I usually use one of these explanations: people are quick breeders (like goblins), there's reformation, or the country the vore story is set in is highly predatory and makes sure they have enough preys by taking them from other countries. Oh, there's also the option of having most preys be animals, and sapient-on-sapient vore be the exception rather than the norm.

[Trajan]

Friends of vore (and dolcett/femcan) what are normally the rules of the dolcett world (in case of a series and not one shot) for avoid rapidly the civilization collapse for too much eating?

In short, predator-prey population graphs are you answer. More preys than predators, and if there is not enough preys the predator population crumbles. Keep in mind though that this is another side of "vore is unrealistic", it's just not as obvious as the fact that swallowing someone whole is. I try to anchor my writing into somewhat realistic worldbuilding, but even I can't help but say "yeah this would be rather unfeasible".

[Blonner]

True, but for my idea i think in a world where civilization not collapsed and dolcett/cannibalism exist and are the normal...maybay there be A LOT of womens than men (more women than man, i mean REALLY more!?)

[theonlymatt]

Vore in general require a fair measure of suspension if disbelief, but this is one where I don't really bother making it too credible. Predators can be very rare or something to make it sustainable, but I personally like keeping the consequences of vore be as severe as they are in real life. The stakes are what makes it hot, don't want to cheapen it.

I put preds in the same class as serial killers. Extremely dangerous if you're targeted by one, everyone knows what they are and that they are a thing but almost nobody encounters one and knows it.

[Riraito]

A massive and unsustainable gender imbalance would be nessecary to sustain a fully dolcett world.

Lets say that for every male that engages in cannibalism, you’d need 250g for an average serving… if he ate every day, that’s roughly 91kg of meat.
Average female weight is something like 70kg of meat (bone weight removed)..
So a man would eat 1.5 girls per year..
With a minimum time to grow of 18 years… that ratio would need to be continually replenished at a 1:28 ratio to leave 1 breedable female in stock to perpetuate the species. (Assuming that 1 woman had multiple births over a longer lifespan than 18.

For everywoman that partakes in gynophagia, that would be a 1.5 girl per year nessecary addition to the food supply. (Or 28 girls per 18years. (And would additionally reduce the pool of women that eat women by 1.5. Per woman per year. So the female population would dwindle fast this rate, unless women were having lots of muliple births early.

Granted this is the minimum viable case of the worst case scenario. Supplimentimg with other animal meats would change how much meat is consumed annually… or reducing the amount of girlmeat consumed per year would have a drastic effect on the ratio needed.

You could easily split a single girl into 250g portions for 280 people. If that were a single time per year (say feast day).. then you’d only need to snuff one girl per every 280 people in the society every year. (A town of 10000 people would only need to snuff 35 girls a year to supply each feast day. (Which seems very manageable to replenish)

(Of course, if you took that town of 10000 people and had them eat at that rate every day, they’d be out of girls to eat in under a year. (Which obviously isn’t enough time for population replenishment.)

So for my momey’s worth…
They’d need a gender imbalance of greater than 1male to maybe 100 women.
They’d need to fuck fuck fuck, to rebalance the male population, and breed more women to eat.
Those (less than 100) women would each need to have between 1.5 and up to 28 children before being culled.
And they probably couldn’t eat girlmeat every single day… (or they’d be removing more women from the pool of a small town than could be replaced in a year.)

[MasterGryph]

Either there aren't many predators to begin with, or the ability has been suppressed for a long time to allow the population to grow.

And like people have said, maybe the story is that civilization is collapsing from overeating.

[FunnelVortex]

In furry vore worldbuilding it's often that prey species breed rapidly and preds make a smaller fraction of the population. Also if if a pred eats a whole person chances are they eat far less frequently than we do, maybe once every couple weeks or months.

So faster-breeding prey + smaller pred population and/or preds having a lower rate of eating.

[Blonner]

A massive and unsustainable gender imbalance would be nessecary to sustain a fully dolcett world.

Lets say that for every male that engages in cannibalism, you’d need 250g for an average serving… if he ate every day, that’s roughly 91kg of meat.
Average female weight is something like 70kg of meat (bone weight removed)..
So a man would eat 1.5 girls per year..
With a minimum time to grow of 18 years… that ratio would need to be continually replenished at a 1:28 ratio to leave 1 breedable female in stock to perpetuate the species. (Assuming that 1 woman had multiple births over a longer lifespan than 18.

For everywoman that partakes in gynophagia, that would be a 1.5 girl per year nessecary addition to the food supply. (Or 28 girls per 18years. (And would additionally reduce the pool of women that eat women by 1.5. Per woman per year. So the female population would dwindle fast this rate, unless women were having lots of muliple births early.

Granted this is the minimum viable case of the worst case scenario. Supplimentimg with other animal meats would change how much meat is consumed annually… or reducing the amount of girlmeat consumed per year would have a drastic effect on the ratio needed.

You could easily split a single girl into 250g portions for 280 people. If that were a single time per year (say feast day).. then you’d only need to snuff one girl per every 280 people in the society every year. (A town of 10000 people would only need to snuff 35 girls a year to supply each feast day. (Which seems very manageable to replenish)

(Of course, if you took that town of 10000 people and had them eat at that rate every day, they’d be out of girls to eat in under a year. (Which obviously isn’t enough time for population replenishment.)

So for my momey’s worth…
They’d need a gender imbalance of greater than 1male to maybe 100 women.
They’d need to fuck fuck fuck, to rebalance the male population, and breed more women to eat.
Those (less than 100) women would each need to have between 1.5 and up to 28 children before being culled.
And they probably couldn’t eat girlmeat every single day… (or they’d be removing more women from the pool of a small town than could be replaced in a year.)

True...i remember another variant are the "cowgirls" aka girls with cow parts (like kashino of Azurlane) or "real" bunny girls"...i think in these case the girls will growth so faster...but the 18 years not are mandatory a girl can be pregnant at the 14/15 years...but obv in our story we tell only the dolcett/femcan part, i think normally is obv they eat other people because eating girls can be only for feast(s) day(s) Exemple:
Xma
New year
easter
summer festival with local name
(more or less all culture + religions have at least 1 winter feast, 1 new year feast, 1 spring and 1 summer feast)
exemple some americans can say "ehy this year in stead a fat turkey we eat a plumpy meat girls"...etc...in case of normal women/girls can be easier...but in case of cowgirls/bunnygirls can be easier.

[FatalEndeavor]

Large familly to compensate the mortality rate. Only two children need to make it to parenthood for the population to be stable, so a large family can handle some losses. They would also need to start having children pretty early since the parents themselves may not make it to their thirties.

If you want to go sci-fi you can shortcut the whole thing by making people grow in vat. When people are mass produced, it really doesn't matter who lives or dies. As for Fantasy, they can just have prey species with a high reproduction rate, like mice.

Edit: Adding to this, there would probably be a distinction between who's important and who's not. You don't want to waste resources training a doctor for ten years only for them to get eaten on their first day on the job. But a retail worker? You can train a new one in a single day and keep it on a need-to-know basis. A vore/dolcett world lends itself very well to a dystopian class society.

[Blonner]

Large familly to compensate the mortality rate. Only two children need to make it to parenthood for the population to be stable, so a large family can handle some losses. They would also need to start having children pretty early since the parents themselves may not make it to their thirties.

If you want to go sci-fi you can shortcut the whole thing by making people grow in vat. When people are mass produced, it really doesn't matter who lives or dies. As for Fantasy, they can just have prey species with a high reproduction rate, like mice.

Edit: Adding to this, there would probably be a distinction between who's important and who's not. You don't want to waste resources training a doctor for ten years only for them to get eaten on their first day on the job. But a retail worker? You can train a new one in a single day and keep it on a need-to-know basis. A vore/dolcett world lends itself very well to a dystopian class society.

True,obv long worker training (programmers, game dev,architects etc) can be protected...

[FunnelVortex]

Large familly to compensate the mortality rate. Only two children need to make it to parenthood for the population to be stable, so a large family can handle some losses. They would also need to start having children pretty early since the parents themselves may not make it to their thirties.

If you want to go sci-fi you can shortcut the whole thing by making people grow in vat. When people are mass produced, it really doesn't matter who lives or dies. As for Fantasy, they can just have prey species with a high reproduction rate, like mice.

Edit: Adding to this, there would probably be a distinction between who's important and who's not. You don't want to waste resources training a doctor for ten years only for them to get eaten on their first day on the job. But a retail worker? You can train a new one in a single day and keep it on a need-to-know basis. A vore/dolcett world lends itself very well to a dystopian class society.

True,obv long worker training (programmers, game dev,architects etc) can be protected...

But if you don't meet your quota you're back in the prey lottery again.

[Blonner]

Large familly to compensate the mortality rate. Only two children need to make it to parenthood for the population to be stable, so a large family can handle some losses. They would also need to start having children pretty early since the parents themselves may not make it to their thirties.

If you want to go sci-fi you can shortcut the whole thing by making people grow in vat. When people are mass produced, it really doesn't matter who lives or dies. As for Fantasy, they can just have prey species with a high reproduction rate, like mice.

Edit: Adding to this, there would probably be a distinction between who's important and who's not. You don't want to waste resources training a doctor for ten years only for them to get eaten on their first day on the job. But a retail worker? You can train a new one in a single day and keep it on a need-to-know basis. A vore/dolcett world lends itself very well to a dystopian class society.

True,obv long worker training (programmers, game dev,architects etc) can be protected...

But if you don't meet your quota you're back in the prey lottery again.

OBV you cannot remain in the university of (doctor/program etc) for 20 years and not complete the exams for remain safe. If you are good and pass ok are protected, if you not are good...be a prey!

[RoxyXion4137]

I know one thing I do for my own stories is basically have everyone a pred. Laws are made to restrict how much people eat, well, people. So if you are a pred you basically apply for a license which will detail how many people you are allowed to eat this year. Basically overpopulation is an issue so the govenment basically just approves enough digestions to keep the population from getting too high.