Unsure how to feel.

[stankoman223]

Just fel like I needed to get this off my chest sooner rather than later, so somewhat of a rant ahead.

Lately, I've been running into a problem of just getting vorny, scrolling mindlessly through my usual tags on here, and finding something super depressing that instantly kills my mood. It'd be fine enough it it just ended there, because at least with that I'd just get an unfinished fap session, but it takes a lot to actually do so and that usually means I end up with a sort of mental crisis where I'm left questioning my own damn moral integrity for having this fetish. I know that sounds drastic, but I deal with overthinking pretty much everything as well as hyper-empathy, so natually a good bit of stuff on this site and around this kink in general can just wreck my mental state. I'm talking, like, horribly cruel preds that disregard the person they've eaten as even being a person, while yhe prey cries, begs, and screams to be spared this agonizing death, usually with a splash of description talking about people missing them afterwards. That level of depravity. And power to you if you like that, but... I don't want to go that far. I don't want to go so desensitized by this kink that I can reasonably find dehumanization and cruelty to that extreme to be attractive, because to me, that's not who I am, but it just feels inevitable that I'll be heading there. So naturally, I'm left with that shitshow stewing in my mind for a while, and it's not like I can blacklist these things entirely because the people who look at something like that aren't going to tag it "sad" or "deppressing", because to them it isn't. It's fap material. Hell, I still like digestion and even unwilling prey in certain situations. But I would be sure to tag those things fully, to make sure somone like me wouldn't run into it and have the same problems that I have. Overall, I just feel like a mess everytime it happens, and while yes, it's just a kink, it's one of the only kinks I've really made peace with that I was unsure of, and only recently am I starting to run into this problem.

Again, sorry for the rant, but I figure it's better to say it aloud in a community that might know the feeling rather than bottle it up.

[unzipsdick]

I... never thought I'd see someone that feels the same way about cruel preds like that. Unwilling in general seems to be so inordinately popular in this website. I swear, if I don't have the willing tag in my searches, I invariably come across something that could be used as evidence if the author was accused of being a serial killer. It's always the majority of the high-quality work too, one of the Portal's best animators made a long, high-effort animation with a lot of the heavy cruelty you're talking about.

The only help I can offer is the Eka's Portal Disinterest Filter which allows you to block users. I do wish that Eka would overhaul the blacklist so stuff gets actually hidden.

Thanks for making me feel validated like that.

[Doku]

As both a purveyor of some of the darker material available on this site on occasion, though I haven't really gone 'whole hog' in quite a few years, and at the same time a person who tends to prefer partaking in the darker or more obviously cruel material myself, allow me to say that you're not especially unusual. No matter how well a person tags their art, whether they put images under blocked out previews that clearly put in the warning, this is a broader paraphilia which will always have certain subsets who are not especially comfortable in each other's company, and who are trying to varying degrees to be understanding of the fact that they share a space. It is less simplistic than Hard v Soft, but there are always a body of the artists and participants of this website/fetish who prefer material to be more affectionate and respectful towards the prey character, and others which revel in the horror of it. Frequently, these two groups don't find a great deal of common ground, and sometimes, when someone is looking for the desired material (Not always to fap mind you. Not everyone here is doing that, believe it or not.), they will run into imagery that can destroy their moods. They might go hunting for an RP and run across a person who's reaction or even profile just hits a nerve and it destroys their urge and desire. And, within the paraphilia this is, to an extent, unavoidable. There's no real way to 'fix' this, because at the end of the day? Some of us are focusing on the fact that something just got eaten and about to die and others are focusing on the fact that something is now enfolded within another creature and embraced by them. And, while there can be bridges in these gaps, this unavoidable complexity will occasionally result in moments where someone is not happy with what they've seen. You're neither crazy (anymore than any of us are outside of the norm of society for wanting to view art of and write RP/fiction of sentient life being eaten.) nor unusual. Don't feel unusual in this.

Additionally, I would caution you not to worry extensively that you might "get that far down the rabbit hole." In truth? Given what you've said and what you're desiring to see? You probably never will. Something to understand is that most of us came into this paraphilia for particular reasons. If you're wanting a certain kind of treatment of the prey character such as you are, even if you can occasionally appreciate certain graphic treatment of their body, you're likely approaching this from particular desires in content that don't "link up" with the darkest and most dehumanized perspectives. The reason I say this is that people such as myself did not enter the paraphilia seeking the same thing that you wanted. Most of those who desire the prey dehumanized, screaming in terror and the like? We were already desirous of that content more or less to begin with. It was the framework within which we found the paraphilia to match our desires. Some go further and further into it, becoming more deeply entrenched in what you see as a jaded and desensitized element, but this is usually because they are deepening their exploration into the kink as they desire to experience it. The more that you're deepening said understanding within your own bounds, the clearer you will become in the things that you desire. Now, yes. Some of us are this way because our sensibilities are inherently jaded and desensitized, and we're viewing things for the shock value of it. I'm actually one of those, but I was that way decades ago, before I ever came to endosomaphilia as a paraphilia. It simply suited my interests. The urge towards jaded imagery was already something inherent within myself. My experience with people who are more in your category is that the vast majority really never do get deeper down that 'rabbit hole' so much as they get deeper into their own particular fascinations.

So, in some ways? I suppose what I'm saying is: "Yeah, most of us have this happen from time to time. Don't let it get to you so much. Relax. Don't let the fetish overwhelm everything that you do so that a bad fap session ruins your day. Take it easy, and come back again when you're in the mood. Keep curating what you're going to be comfortable with to minimize your discomfort because there's going to be stuff that makes you uncomfortable."

Take it from someone with some experience: Stay here long enough, there's bound to be something that triggers you. Even the jaded amongst us have things we don't like seeing.

[Trebortron3]

Doku has covered pretty much everything I was going to say, but I'd just like to back up those comments, particularly a) this is something I think most of us have dealt with in some aspect or another, and b) it's not some slippery slope where you end up utterly depraved.

I've definitely become more hardcore in my interests and the stuff I'm willing to tolerate if I enjoy the rest of the material (a really well-written story or the rest of a particular artist's gallery), but my response to my hard limits hasn't shifted much, and I've been active here for more than half a decade, and was lurking for a few years before that. Yes, I've gone from only liking safe vore to quite enjoying fatal vore, and my preferences have always been for unwilling prey, so that inevitably leads to stories of prey begging not to be eaten etc. But even with my shifting tastes, I still can't stand blood, broken bones, realistic weeping/trauma reactions etc. Even if everything else about the image/story is realistic, the reaction of the unwilling prey has to occupy this sort of cartoon world where it's bad but it's not actual legitimate trauma bad, otherwise I'm actively turned off by it.

I guess for a lot of people that isn't a very high bar; "Oh, you don't like trauma in your porn. Good for you, here's a medal." But my point is that I've experienced a BIG shift in my tolerance of horrible things happening to innocent characters, but I don't feel I've had much if any shift in my 'moral integrity', as you put it. Again, as Doku said, the very fact that you're worrying about this suggests to me you won't lose that integrity.

As for how to avoid it, I don't have many smart ideas, for the reasons you listed. I guess it's mostly a case of finding artists/authors who don't cross those boundaries and using those as touchstones, rather than rolling the dice by searching for key words. It doesn't mean you have to stick to people you already know - sometimes if I really like the content a creator produces, I'll browse their favourites and the people they follow, because those will likely contain similar content. Likewise, if someone comments on a piece of work I really enjoy and says something like "God this is my all-time favourite fantasy", I might check their gallery/favourites out. In other words, try to find 'your people' within the wider vore community. I almost never see/read hard-vore content, for example. I know it's not as common as soft-vore, so that helps me avoid it, but I gravitate towards creators whose gallery is exclusively soft-vore, then I browse their favourites and find more of the same.

Hope this helps, and I wish you many guilt-free faps in the future!

[Ixtili]

I also can feel pretty guilty about the things I like in Vore and I occasionally question what my preferences say about me. I would not say it's necessarily an issue of morality given it's fiction but the threat of being desensitised does occasionally worry me. I like to think I know my limits and won't accidentally push my mind too far. But Eka's is a pretty free for all ecosystem and exposure has changed my fetish before. So I don't think it's a worry I'll ever be entirely free from.

I also have occasionally run across a level of cruelty displayed by a character in a story on here that I was not prepared for and been taken out of "the mood" because of it. But my own fantasies, pred characters and the idea of Vore in and of itself likely seems cruel to the majority of people so I try not to judge.

[AeriaGloris]

I've definitely become more hardcore in my interests and the stuff I'm willing to tolerate if I enjoy the rest of the material (a really well-written story or the rest of a particular artist's gallery), but my response to my hard limits hasn't shifted much, and I've been active here for more than half a decade, and was lurking for a few years before that. Yes, I've gone from only liking safe vore to quite enjoying fatal vore, and my preferences have always been for unwilling prey, so that inevitably leads to stories of prey begging not to be eaten etc. But even with my shifting tastes, I still can't stand blood, broken bones, realistic weeping/trauma reactions etc. Even if everything else about the image/story is realistic, the reaction of the unwilling prey has to occupy this sort of cartoon world where it's bad but it's not actual legitimate trauma bad, otherwise I'm actively turned off by it.

I guess for a lot of people that isn't a very high bar; "Oh, you don't like trauma in your porn. Good for you, here's a medal." But my point is that I've experienced a BIG shift in my tolerance of horrible things happening to innocent characters, but I don't feel I've had much if any shift in my 'moral integrity', as you put it. Again, as Doku said, the very fact that you're worrying about this suggests to me you won't lose that integrity.

This has been my experience as well.

I recall being troubled years ago by some of the content EmperorPalpatine wrote. It haunted me. But I had same reaction to vore initially. Over time, I came to realize he was tapping into a further subset of kinks I was unaware of. His content opened my eyes to the power dynamics of vore and how they are so important in sexuality. Uneasiness and arousal are frequently linked and none of us would be here if we weren't curious. If you enjoy it but feel guilty, recall that all the content on this site is fiction. If you prefer intimate and loving vore, stick to the willing prey tag or wholesome vore tags.

Personally, betrayal is my favorite kink. The higher the stakes, the better the reaction. So I apologize to anyone here who reads my content, likes the characters, and gets upset when they meet their inevitable demise.

[InverseTacquito]

Vore's unlike many other fetishes, it's an umbrella. In general, it's one that can overlap with the whole gambit of general pairing interests, and as such you're gonna find results at the furthest extremes, and even makes other ones subgenre to it. You got your soft and hard, which can include aspects of dominance, intimacy, or otherwise, and towards the furthest ends you'll have your gentle endo and such and towards the other end you'll have full-on guro. And I've seen plenty of people on the forums and in the roleplay chat talk about how the other is "wrong"; legitimately tapering off into a "one true vore" discussion as nuts as that sounds on paper.

The honest to god truth is, the other stuff is always going to be there and should always be there. That's what makes this community, odd as that is to say about a fetish interest, as enduring as the gt/gts and bbw/bbm ones. There's a whole lot that can be done with it, thus leading to tremendous creative potential and thus plenty of room for all kinds of people.

Except the people who meme it or use vore as a verb. Gitouttahere.

[EmilyNidhoggr]

I feel like good vore content should be haunting- it's a horror genre, after all. The titillation comes from that plummeting feeling of moral nausea, for me anyway. I think paraphilias and phobias are two sides of the same coin, an attraction vs avoidance strategy of approaching terror/disgust.
If you're someone who obsesses over moral questions (and/or your weight), then it's pretty natural to be both repulsed and turned on by the embodiment of amorality, your arch-enemy and closest confidant, who is really just yourself (or something you recognise as like you) as an unconstrained all-consuming beast.
Likewise, if you're someone who obsesses over how others think of you, it's natural to be both repulsed and turned on by the thought of a powerful devouring Other, who sees you only as a meal.
I think the more fantastical those dynamics are, the more they hit like comfort food; whereas the more realistic they are, the more they shock and unsettle.

I guess you know your limit, of how much you're willing to be shocked without the nausea overwhelming the titillation. Personally I want to get in behind people's walls and uproot their souls, and I love content that catches me like that, but I get that most people are just here to blow their gaskets.

I think as long as you're finding new ways to unsettle yourself, the arms race with your conscience continues and your moral sense keeps growing more sophisticated as a result of your dalliance with fictional depravity. Don't get me wrong, becoming desensitised to cruelty and trauma is a real danger in the modern world, but it's a symptom of how non-fiction media is consumed and engaged with, and the perceived powerlessness of individuals, far more than it is a result of playing with cruelty and trauma in a fictional setting.

[MyHeartInAcid]

I totally feel the same way sometimes! Definitely is an over-abundance of unwilling in all vore, heh I’ve contributed to it too a few times. For me I’m also at a seemingly niche point where I love hard vore and digestion paired with willing >w<

[KnightleyPaine]

Sounds pretty normal.

While I find this whole thread obnoxious because whining about how other people's fetishes, even if they deeply hurt your feelings doesn't seem very considerate towards these people either, like I was with OP in the first half but at one point it started to come across as guilt-trippy and inviting for sympathizers to amplify the 'we don't like fetish' thing.

But I also think the whole site would be better off if everyone understood how thin the line between kink and disgust can be, and also adopt better tagging habits. Because I have to call into question this part:

the people who look at something like that aren't going to tag it "sad" or "deppressing", because to them it isn't. It's fap material.

As someone who has dealt with a lot of masochists in RP and is just fortunate enough for it to be a foreign phantasmagoria that cannot possibly hit close to home, a lot of the time it's fap material because it's sad, depressing or cruel. If your writing isn't at some grade school level where 'thing happens and then other thing happens', there is a tone and that tone is deliberate. Whether a cruelty is contrasted with casualness, horniness, or actually underlined with atmospheric horror is part of what writers, artists, etc. craft when they have a certain level of basic understanding on how to write with a tone. It's basically why Gotham City seems perpetually in nighttime.

You know how perma prey very specifically leave behind their profile sometimes? I personally know about two for certain who get a kick out of the idea that someone like you looks at that profile and feels bad, or even played with them before and feels heartbroken. It's not always that to them it is tuesday, a lot of the time they feel the same things and get off on it. So unless OP is referring to the most babby casual shit where a grab'n'gulp story ends in a burp and it devastates them emotionally because the pred didn't show 'concern' and apologize to the prey it's not as clear cut. Sure, I guess there's like a tiny chance an actual sociopath or psychopath writes the edgiest thing and doesn't even realize it but if you can write a cruel tone you usually know what you just did.

So to everyone who know they're getting off on sick shit but failing to tag it, and to everyone in this thread airing their trauma with equal lack of consideration for people who create that material - sincerely, screw you and every horse you rode on. Not on behalf of the other party or anything, I just can't stand people like you on a personal level at the moment of writing this for the exact duration this post remains in my consciousness which won't be long.

That being said, I'm still with OP having a point with the tagging and I will always advocate for functional tagging, heck, I'm still waiting for the day I can filter art/stories apart from each other.

Finally though, for everyone in here feeling like OP and including them - this is a you problem at the very bottom of it. Adult content is adult content, and if you pass a content threshold we're supposed to be able to assume you know how this shit works. This is a niche community as is, you get to whine about the cruel preds precisely as much as I get to bitch about gay porn existing which is exactly zero and really fucking inconsiderate like nobody gets to go 'oh if you love the other mans all the power to you but when I come across the things they like I just feel -' NO. STOP. And from how that first OP post reads, what with them going as far as noting stuff about prey going missing at the end - dude, nobody forces you to read a story to the end. You see one iota of a hint about something that will get to you and the story is closed then and there, because the story can't choose where it is, but you can pick what you're reading. Even if the author completely fucked their tagging - yes they done fucked up and are at fault so fuck them the exact amount they deserve for the cockup - but you are always, always able to close the thing. Don't fucking read the psychological torture scene made to fuck with your head all the way to the end knowing you do not like it and will get disturbed and then afterwards air your disturbance, the first time was unfortunate, all subsequent times are squarely on you, abort and assume the story went the exact way you wanted it to go or something.

Also fuck this vague thread title, thread titles like this one has need to go and die.

[stankoman223]

Ok, I was trying to resist replying, but... this part.

You know how perma prey very specifically leave behind their profile sometimes? I personally know about two for certain who get a kick out of the idea that someone like you looks at that profile and feels bad, or even played with them before and feels heartbroken.

I just gotta say that, personnally, I think that kind of a person is just a dick. Cause, like, normal perma I'm fine with, can totoally understand it. But if I see somone that I'd truly enjoyed playing with, or was still actively playing with, get perma'd, without them letting me know, for the express purpose of making me or anyone like me feel bad because they'd know I'd be upset by it? That's just a dick move, and frankly I think it's better that they're removed from the rp pool via perma, cause the community is better off without em. Perma? Fine, cool and good, it's your account. Perma for the sake of upsetting people not into perma? You're just being a prick, kinks be damned.

[KnightleyPaine]

I have at no point stated they target people for the purpose of making them feel bad, their characters just die when they choose it, it's how all perma prey functions and it was entirely about how sometimes it is about negative emotions - is your one take away from my entire post to imagine being personally wronged by other people's kinks and then go off topic to expressly judge them for it?

Seems about right I guess. This is too sad for me to insult. Maybe take a break from the internet.

(also permas rarely actually leave, they just nuke the character)

[LucifersChef]

That being said, I'm still with OP having a point with the tagging and I will always advocate for functional tagging, heck, I'm still waiting for the day I can filter art/stories apart from each other.

You can select the medium (writing, images etc) when using the advanced search bar https://aryion.com/g4/search.php?q=Search+Gallery%E2%80%A6

So, in some ways? I suppose what I'm saying is: "Yeah, most of us have this happen from time to time. Don't let it get to you so much. Relax. Don't let the fetish overwhelm everything that you do so that a bad fap session ruins your day. Take it easy, and come back again when you're in the mood. Keep curating what you're going to be comfortable with to minimize your discomfort because there's going to be stuff that makes you uncomfortable."

Take it from someone with some experience: Stay here long enough, there's bound to be something that triggers you. Even the jaded amongst us have things we don't like seeing.

This is very true. Frankly I'm probably the one writing stuff that triggers a lot of other people. But I still run into stuff that makes me sad and melancholy for a whole day. I've found over the years I've learned respect for other people's kinks, and understanding why they are into them and the motivations and attraction.

Generally, the vast majority of people in this fetish are respectful and good people. Frankly, the fans of more vanilla content have caused me far more trouble and directed far more abuse at people over the years. I think when you're into something unusual, it usually (not always) makes you second guess being a judgemental asshole. Whereas the vanilla sort (vanilla being a matter of perspective in a vore community hah) are often judgemental.

[tecks]

I feel like good vore content should be haunting- it's a horror genre, after all. The titillation comes from that plummeting feeling of moral nausea, for me anyway. I think paraphilias and phobias are two sides of the same coin, an attraction vs avoidance strategy of approaching terror/disgust.
If you're someone who obsesses over moral questions (and/or your weight), then it's pretty natural to be both repulsed and turned on by the embodiment of amorality, your arch-enemy and closest confidant, who is really just yourself (or something you recognise as like you) as an unconstrained all-consuming beast.
Likewise, if you're someone who obsesses over how others think of you, it's natural to be both repulsed and turned on by the thought of a powerful devouring Other, who sees you only as a meal.
I think the more fantastical those dynamics are, the more they hit like comfort food; whereas the more realistic they are, the more they shock and unsettle.

I guess you know your limit, of how much you're willing to be shocked without the nausea overwhelming the titillation. Personally I want to get in behind people's walls and uproot their souls, and I love content that catches me like that, but I get that most people are just here to blow their gaskets.

I think as long as you're finding new ways to unsettle yourself, the arms race with your conscience continues and your moral sense keeps growing more sophisticated as a result of your dalliance with fictional depravity. Don't get me wrong, becoming desensitised to cruelty and trauma is a real danger in the modern world, but it's a symptom of how non-fiction media is consumed and engaged with, and the perceived powerlessness of individuals, far more than it is a result of playing with cruelty and trauma in a fictional setting.

These are my thoughts exactly, I think, well said! I personally write vore as horror and consider enjoyment of it the same way I would a horror film. Its power comes from being unsettling. At the same time, of course, there are things that would upset me and I wouldn't want to see, but I think the acknowledgement of accepting we can enjoy something precisely because because it is dark is a big step towards understanding how certain elements of the fetish work in the first place (and likewise in giving yourself a break from the weighty guilt of feeling something is wrong with you).

[2KFSK]

Don't post much but here goes.
I am very much enamored with making vore and all adjacent paraphilias as soul-crushing as possible. That in mind I completely understand where this is coming from. I even felt it myself once, reading a story that genuinely disturbed me. But that story was also an incredible and incredibly-written story. For as much as it repelled me, it enticed me at the same time.
I think that being true to yourself is the most important thing. I do think that you should use the tools built into the websites to avoid what's uncomfortable for you, though it pains me that some harrowing material might still slip through the cracks. Nevertheless, all the best!

[Doku]

Ok, I was trying to resist replying, but... this part.

You know how perma prey very specifically leave behind their profile sometimes? I personally know about two for certain who get a kick out of the idea that someone like you looks at that profile and feels bad, or even played with them before and feels heartbroken.

I just gotta say that, personnally, I think that kind of a person is just a dick. Cause, like, normal perma I'm fine with, can totoally understand it. But if I see somone that I'd truly enjoyed playing with, or was still actively playing with, get perma'd, without them letting me know, for the express purpose of making me or anyone like me feel bad because they'd know I'd be upset by it? That's just a dick move, and frankly I think it's better that they're removed from the rp pool via perma, cause the community is better off without em. Perma? Fine, cool and good, it's your account. Perma for the sake of upsetting people not into perma? You're just being a prick, kinks be damned.

So, as KnightlyPaine indicated, it is extremely rare to encounter someone who engages in any form of RP around here with the intention of making another person feel bad about themselves (without the expressed desire of the partner to feel bad, as emotional masochism is very much a thing). This includes the side topic of 'perma,' or the retirement of characters. I have, in around 2 decades, encountered only a meager handful of people who specifically relished the fact that others would be hurt somehow by their actions. I do encounter those who appreciate the fact that someone misses their characters, as this makes the sense of 'loss' in the retirement of the character more poignant, and so the fact of it feels more 'real' to them. However, the vast majority of people doing this are not doing it with the intention of making people sad. They just appreciate that any level of a sense of loss indicates that there actually was a loss, and therefore they get a clearer emotional connection to the event. But, if someone is intentionally getting off because they know they're causing emotional distress OOCly, and intentionally pushing to accomplish that, regardless of whether or not someone's consented to that behavior OOCly? Yeah, they're kind of a dick. Last one I remember like that got themselves banned a long time ago for their antics. That sort of conduct usually links up with inappropriate behavior that gets someone reported.

Now, that said, you are a person who I would recommend that you put up in your profiles an included note that you don't have an interest in roleplaying with a character who participates in character retirement/permavore scenes. based upon your comments, I do not think you would ever be comfortable, and so that's clearly something best avoided by you. It's their choice as the player of the prey character, but it would be wise and in your own emotional self interest to not engage characters like that. But, at the same time? You have to be aware that outside of permavore, characters retire. People leave this site, and they don't always send personalized warnings to others. Characters come, and go. People lose the urge to play X and move to Y. Financial circumstances change and they stop hanging around. Kinks shift, and people do in fact determine that they are no longer ethically comfortable being around here. And yes, sometimes players get sick and have to depart for medical reasons. And, 90% of the time? You're not going to hear about it, because very few of us are really that close. This is simply the reality of a mostly anonymous kink parlor. That is something to always be emotionally prepared for, and not get overly invested in.

[BeGad]

Man, I'm more wondering where you people are finding vore content with such a powerful emotional impact, one way or another. The gallery doesn't really have much in the way of curation so its hard to actually dig out the gems that also align with what you like.

[unzipsdick]

I still can't stand ... realistic weeping/trauma reactions etc. ... I guess for a lot of people that isn't a very high bar; "Oh, you don't like trauma in your porn. Good for you, here's a medal."

On most sites, you'd be absolutely right. Here, however, there is a far higher proportion of unwilling content compared to willing content, to the point where non-consent is considered the default. Because of that, there is also going to be a lot more trauma-related content in this site than any other porn site. Start thinking relative to Eka's, and not liking trauma in your porn becomes a far higher bar than anywhere else. That's where this whole controversy is coming from. If this was any other porn site, we wouldn't have threads like this. On Eka's, you're far more likely to encounter disturbing content (even relative to vore itself) than any other site. And the thing about trauma? Most fetishes, if you see content you don't like, the worst case scenario is you feel disgust. Trauma, however, is emotionally disturbing, and seeing it if you're not into it is a lot worse than with any other kink.

Now, some people's knee-jerk reaction to this might be something along the lines of what a lot of people in this thread have written, that there are going to be a lot of different preferences in this community and that's not going to change anytime soon. That's not my point. You're allowed to write anything you want, and I'll stand by that. My point is that it's more important here than anywhere else to be able to avoid things you don't want to see. So far, the admins have flunked out in that regard. The tag blacklist system is rudimentary at best (not actually hiding posts, no way to exclude tags from searches, no user blocking without external tools) and any thread in the technical forums is met with a dismissive response and locked immediately. The result? A site that's friendly to people into trauma and hostile to anyone else. Again, I'm not blaming content creators as long as you put warnings on your stuff.

TL;DR: Admins fix your damn tag system, uploaders fix your damn tags.

[Assimilation]

Man, I'm more wondering where you people are finding vore content with such a powerful emotional impact, one way or another. The gallery doesn't really have much in the way of curation so its hard to actually dig out the gems that also align with what you like.

I love the depraved, cruel shit that is being talked about in this thread, but there was a comic I read a few years ago that overpowered my sexual fetishization of the terror dynamic in vore. I believe it was on one of Mamabliss's old vore comic sites, in which an anthro squirrel (or something similar) kid goes out into the fields with a warning from mommy dearest to stay safe, and it ends after the expected vore happening in the fields with a few panels of the mom squirrel looking out across the fields, looking worried and calling out for her kid who we know has just been eaten. In that moment, I was more immersed in the emotions of the mother than in that of the predator (I don't remember, anthro cat maybe) that my arousal was stopped in its tracks and I had to sympathize instead, eyes glassy.

I don't want to go so desensitized by this kink that I can reasonably find dehumanization and cruelty to that extreme to be attractive, because to me, that's not who I am, but it just feels inevitable that I'll be heading there.

Well, the point continues that the next several times I visited the site, I made sure to pass over the link to that story as quickly as possible to not have my memories linger, but eventually I tried the story again and was in the requisite state of mind to find excitement in the darkness of the story over any sympathy that simultaneously manifested. To some extent, I acknowledge that there is a progression of desensitization to things that would elicit horror and disgust in normal people as a vorarephile gets exposed to more content of this matter, but there is a very solid and unthreatened line that separates what sexually excites me in fantasy with how I interact emotionally with real-life relationships. There is an objectification that comes with most mental fantasy—we hold concepts in our mind with the flat 2-dimensional perspective viewed from ourselves, rather than considering the scenario fully-realized where every 3D aspect establishes its own existence independent of the angle we make with it. Almost any real-world depravity or cruelty with almost any level of proximity to me has little connection to that weirdly-wired aspect of my sexual appetite and instead always goes the expected responses of aghastness, sympathy, bewilderment, frustration, etc.

That all being said, it can only be a win-win for people of any preferences if the blacklisting of tags were more effective. If you are given the tools you want to filter out the traumatic stuff you don't want to see, it means I'm being given the tools to filter out the less-traumatic content that doesn't excite me.

[stankoman223]

Ok, so, just as a quick update to this, I've managed to do some thinking and figure at least SOME of this mess out.

I've found I'm able to at the very least deal with the more cruel and messed up aspects so long as it's happenning to me or some representation of me. For some reason, my mind just gives less of a damn when I'm the subject of things like betrayal or cruel preds (They still aren't my favourite but I can look past them). Give me a POV story, or an rp where I'm playing as a representation of me, a.k.a my one oc that I use, There's a lot less impact. The moment the perspective shifts and the prey character is a separate fleshed out character on their own, I can no longer handle it. My hyper-empethy kicks in, because there's a seperate thing to connect to now, and I start to overthink about their thoughts, emotions, etc. It's good to have that bit figured out, still wish I could just enjoy some damn vore eithout having a crisis every so often.