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Where it all began

Postby MaskedSinner » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:08 pm

I'm sure most of you know when they first discovered they liked watching this kind of thing, but does anyone knows what was the first person to actually "create" vore, not just drawing people being eaten but determining that this is a thing and it's name is vore.

Also does anyone knows whats with vore that seems to atract furries? I'm not complaining, this has brought some very skilled people to the community and i don't really care if it's furry or not. I'm just curious
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Re: Where it all began

Postby sweetladyamy » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:38 am

I honestly do not know, but if someone does or has any insight, I am just as curious to know, so I'll be following this, for certain.
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Re: Where it all began

Postby Jayezox » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:08 am

MaskedSinner wrote:I'm sure most of you know when they first discovered they liked watching this kind of thing, but does anyone knows what was the first person to actually "create" vore, not just drawing people being eaten but determining that this is a thing and it's name is vore.

Also does anyone knows whats with vore that seems to atract furries? I'm not complaining, this has brought some very skilled people to the community and i don't really care if it's furry or not. I'm just curious

There is more to it, but there are a couple of things that stand out. The first one is a strong fantasy aspect that both categories share. The second one is animals and humanoid animals have that sort of primal hunger that makes them more appealing to vore.
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Re: Where it all began

Postby ProfessorCat » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:35 am

What Jayezox said, that and the fact that any decently common fetish will have a furry side.
The first usage of the word vore is probably gone, but it would be neat to see the oldest the community can find.
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Re: Where it all began

Postby Devourerita » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:55 am

MaskedSinner wrote:Also does anyone knows whats with vore that seems to atract furries? I'm not complaining, this has brought some very skilled people to the community and i don't really care if it's furry or not. I'm just curious


Coming to this site from others, I can assure you that there is far more furry content than human so it could be argued that human fans were attracted instead.

Also, I'll be following this too.
The oldest site I know of was this: https://web.archive.org/web/20080502152 ... rator.net/ active since 1997
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Re: Where it all began

Postby Dekkard2 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:15 pm

Devourerita wrote:
MaskedSinner wrote:Also does anyone knows whats with vore that seems to atract furries? I'm not complaining, this has brought some very skilled people to the community and i don't really care if it's furry or not. I'm just curious


Coming to this site from others, I can assure you that there is far more furry content than human so it could be argued that human fans were attracted instead.

Also, I'll be following this too.
The oldest site I know of was this: https://web.archive.org/web/20080502152 ... rator.net/ active since 1997


Damn, that takes me back. I remember downloading plenty of vore images from vor-com back in the day.
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Re: Where it all began

Postby MaskedSinner » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:05 pm

The oldest site I know of was this: https://web.archive.org/web/20080502152 ... rator.net/ active since 1997


That's interersting to know, so it would be at the very least 1997, but i'm sure we can go back even more, perhaps another ten or twenty years. Since vore is shor Vorarephilia i think we could try and trace down when the term was invented or first used, maybe even who was the first (documented) vorarephilic.

Coming to this site from others, I can assure you that there is far more furry content than human so it could be argued that human fans were attracted instead.


That maybe true, but i don't think so. I reckon that there is far more furry content (At least that i have seen) and that they tend to be on higher quality (I.e: Cakeinferno), but i still believe that vore came around to exist first and then the furry came around. Like Professor Cat said, any known fetish has a furry side to it.

I wonder, one is attracted to furry and vore so they just mix both or are they specifically into furry vore?
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Re: Where it all began

Postby Devourerita » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:15 pm

MaskedSinner wrote:
Coming to this site from others, I can assure you that there is far more furry content than human so it could be argued that human fans were attracted instead.


That maybe true, but i don't think so. I reckon that there is far more furry content (At least that i have seen) and that they tend to be on higher quality (I.e: Cakeinferno), but i still believe that vore came around to exist first and then the furry came around. Like Professor Cat said, any known fetish has a furry side to it.

I wonder, one is attracted to furry and vore so they just mix both or are they specifically into furry vore?


That's my case: I'm not a furry and I'm not interested in their events, but I like furry preds (mostly dragons. humans were alway a big no for me)

On my search for old vore sites I found this site with plenty of old links: https://web.archive.org/web/20060410085 ... index.html
I've also found this index: https://web.archive.org/web/20010223090 ... links.html showing some sites from 1999
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Re: Where it all began

Postby Latroma » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:19 pm

"Peril" art of some variety has existed since the golden age of comics in the 1940s and 1950s with Jungle Girl and similar works. ( https://www.deviantart.com/megasonicman ... -796301702 Megasonicmanlover has a screen cap from one of the old pieces). Pop culture art for viewing interest that glorified imperiled heroes and heroines back in the 40s opened up more when the art was easier to mass produce, which is coincidentally around the time that you begin to see the explosion of the pornographic and erotic art industries.

Basically, when it became easier to mass produce art, it became easier to justify the time and energy to mass produce art for erotic stimulation. This is when you start seeing a real proliferation of art in a wide assortment of media and styles. It was not always intended to be 'erotic' per se (The golden age comics rarely were, though there was a lot of male power fantasies tied into many of them.), but one could argue that this began to create an avenue for artists to investigate the media as a personal stimulation.

With the advent of serious digital art and the access to quickly downloadable art and internet and extranet communities in the 1990s, art was disseminated among a wide variety of groups, and you start seeing organized bodies like this. FurryMUCK and TapestriesMUCK along with the mIRC chatboards I knew of in the 90s were basically the earliest places I'm aware of endosomatophiles gathering.

The art as a vessel for an active fascination in getting eaten isn't something that we see strongly prior the golden age. I'm certain there were outliers before that, but it's just not something seen in any heavy form. Basically, until art could be mass produced this easily, it wasn't used in the way we use it for general populace stimulation. They were curios, keepsakes, the property of the rich, in museums and the like. When we began mass producing art, you could get anything you wanted drawn, and with every passing decade, moreso.

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Re: The association of 'Vore and Furries, those who've said that the humans got attracted to a largely Furry pastime are mostly correct. While some of the earliest comic-style art was human in nature, we don't see heavy art until a subset of the Furry community began to demonstrate the interest. They relegated themselves to small sub-rooms in Tapestries (like Omega's Club, or Hell in FurryMuck.), devoted to violent play or specifically to 'vore and as they built up connections, early artists and fans began creating Geocities communities and ultimately websites like YumChat, which was later replaced by Eka's Portal in the mid 2000s.

But as a group of artists explicitly doing mass produced 'vore art expressly for the paraphilic enjoyment of fetishists, we see the first offerings coming out of the Furry community. Since that time, both groups have largely distanced themselves from each other. There's still furries into vore explicitly, but it's not generally a topic to bring up in Furry communities. They don't like to be associated with it. Similarly, a fairly large chunk of people I've met who came here don't like the backwards association with Furries because of the unsurprising reception that they used to get back at Tapestries outside of designated 'safe' areas for the practice. (Not to mention that, until a few years ago, Tapestries used to be VERY elitist towards all non-furs. Not as in 'against the rules' but outright nasty to those who had interests outside of furred communities. It was a large part of why I basically gave up on it. They made an exception for elves, but oh you took so much flack for playing one in most areas.)
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Re: Where it all began

Postby Devourerita » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:40 pm

Well, as it turns out vor-com is indeed the oldest site made specifically for vore content https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/vore (it's also said on wikifur).

This also confirms my theory that the furries were the ambassadors for vore as a fetish. It's possible that the word vore was created by the creator of vor-com, but we'll never know since nothing older than 2004 was saved.

However, this barely functional page https://web.archive.org/web/20071011014 ... /vmenu.htm says that some images are from 1988. I have no idea of where they used to be hosted, or who made them.
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Re: Where it all began

Postby Latroma » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:54 pm

Yeah, a look over Tapestries' old records and Omega's recollections a couple years back verifies that Vor-Com and the Vor Cafe in Tapestries were both set up around the same year, and the Food Chain over at FurryMuck was established in a prior year (but ultimately gutted due to inactivity back in '05, long after I stopped going to FM).

Generally, online presence in an organized fashion of any sort started around '97 it seems, with some art subsets predating.
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Re: Where it all began

Postby MaskedSinner » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:29 pm

I'm glad we could find that out, it was quite fun to start this conversation. Maybe i will make another post lather with another question for the community. Thanks for the help, mates.

Also, i have another question. For people who are already around here. If you were given the oportunity of trying vore in real life in the way that you seem most apropriate with safety but with the condition that it would have to be a full tour (Scat not necessarily envolved) through the system. Would you take the chance?
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Re: Where it all began

Postby Latroma » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:56 am

No.

For one, the scenario as described holds no interest to me. I focus on horror and the macabre, so that scenario isn't particularly to my tastes in fiction.

That said, I absolutely have no interest in anything related to this fetish ever being present in the real world. The mere idea of it gives me hives.
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Re: Where it all began

Postby sweetladyamy » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:40 am

To answer the newer question, since I couldn't really input on the first:

Enacting my fantasy? Sure, but digestion would be a must.
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Re: Where it all began

Postby Devourerita » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:59 am

Well, as a fan of digestion, I'm not really interested in a full tour, unless the art is so good that I can't like it.

Also, I've found a working vor-com mirror (hosted here too), maybe we can dig here to find something https://aryion.com/vor-com/
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Re: Where it all began

Postby MaskedSinner » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:44 am

Enacting my fantasy? Sure, but digestion would be a must.


So you would like to actually be digested? Or maybe you meant that you are in there with some food that would also be digested?

maybe we can dig here to find something


Nice, i will have a look at it
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Re: Where it all began

Postby MaskedSinner » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:47 am

I checked it out and it made me realize two things

1º: I have no idea what i am doing, sorry friends

2º: Who is the oldest vore artist who is still active?
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Re: Where it all began

Postby again__again » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:41 pm

MaskedSinner wrote:
2º: Who is the oldest vore artist who is still active?


probably strega or karbo, if i had to guess.
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Re: Where it all began

Postby CelestialMirror » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:36 pm

Thanks for posting this topic Masked!

I actually discussed my hypotheses on the history of vore in one of my recent "Intro to Vore" documents on DA!

https://www.deviantart.com/celestialmirror/art/Intro-To-Vore-2-How-People-Get-Vore-Affinities-808409937

However, I can give the TL;DR version below for people who don't want to read the whole thing ^^;

. . .

So, "Vore" as a storytelling theme has existed for all of human history: Look no further than "Jonah" or many Greek Myths, the concept of vore has always been around! However, vore as an Affinity (I use the word Affinity instead of fe****), has drastically increased in numbers in recent history, such as from the late 90's to today as many of you have mentioned. There may have been people with Vore Affinities before the 1900's, but if they existed they would have been extremely rare and undocumented, even moreso than we are today.

My theory is that there are WAY more people with Vore Affinities today, because there is much more exposure to vore in today's society then there was 100 years ago. This is due to media, mainly television and movies. Just think: How many "vore" situations can you name across all movies and TV shows? Probably quite a few! Since the conception of TV in billions of homes, ideas, stories, and themes have become infinitely easier to spread. The concept of a character being swallowed whole appears all over television/movies, because it is a unique and surprising setting for writers to use to make an episode more memorable. However, TV and movie writers had no idea what "vore" actually is, and as a side effect of increased exposure to vore themes, the number of people with Vore Affinities has exploded in recent history!

Anyhow, like everyone else has been saying, the internet helped us to meet each other and get organized in more recent history, which brings us to where we are today! :D

. . .

As for the real-life question, I'd be all for experiencing Micro-Macro vore in real life, as long as it was guaranteed to be 100% safe (And the shrinking was reversible)! I really like full tour, so I would be fine with that... *Blushes*. But I would only do it with a marital partner who would be comfortable with it. :)
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Re: Where it all began

Postby sweetladyamy » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:56 pm

MaskedSinner wrote:
sweetladyamy wrote:Enacting my fantasy? Sure, but digestion would be a must.


So you would like to actually be digested? Or maybe you meant that you are in there with some food that would also be digested?


The former. Definitely the former.
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