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Re: Writing things you think a budding vore writer should av

Postby ReptileKing23 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:33 pm

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Re: Writing things you think a budding vore writer should av

Postby umakeisee » Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:25 am

Just some basic writing advice, since Vore Writing isn't that unique aside from the content.

1. Re-read your story before posting. Even if it's just a once over, it will eliminate a lot of basic mistakes you'll make trying to hammer out a story as it flows from your fingers.
2. If it sounds weird, try rewriting it or saying it out loud. If it's really not coming together, put a pin in it. A fresh perspective after some time away can help a lot.
3. Avoid the purple patch. Whenever you're describing something and you start to dedicate paragraphs to similes and metaphors, ask yourself if you'd want to read this, or if you'd start to lose interest after the tenth time the character's arousal was compared to another abstract concept. If you do, go for it! If even you start to think "maybe this is too much", cut it back. Save those flowery prose for later and sprinkle them into your next few stories.
4. Read reactions, but don't let them control you. If you have an idea for a story, but a comment comes along suggesting something else, it's not a bad idea to use it if you think it sounds good. However, don't ever feel pressured to change your story to please your audience. Do this for yourself as much as your readers.
5. Have fun. Don't burn yourself out because you feel obligated to provide for your readers. They'll be able to tell when you are forcing yourself to write. Never be afraid to take a break. You'll almost always come back with more energy than before.
6. Write down ideas. I dedicate a file to random story ideas and it's been a huge help. Sure, there's a dozen ideas I haven't touched yet, but they'll always be there, even when they slip from my mind.

I hope these help.
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Re: Writing things you think a budding vore writer should av

Postby Scratch » Tue Feb 28, 2023 7:57 pm

When it comes to vore, actually write about vore, find something about the fetish you want to address in the story. I see too many stories that are just character pairings with vore scenarios. You can use vore inside a larger story just fine, but when it comes to stories about vore it is so much more compelling to the reader if you have something to say, whether you say it through the characters or the plot.

Outside of that, everyone has given basic advice... I think stressing on grammar is a bit much; you need to focus much more on how your sentences sound and flow and deliver meaning, leave punctuation for the "editor" (ie you at the final polish). But to really write well you also should do your basic duty as a short story teller: have a good hook, be compelling throughout the story, and add wrinkles and twists. After that it's all art as to how you tell a story.
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Re: Writing things you think a budding vore writer should av

Postby LiquidSara » Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:07 am

All of the good pieces of advice have already been given on here. It's too easy to get too focused on how a single sentence or paragraph runs that you lose track of the whole story, and then you end up redoing the whole plot in your head.

Mash the keyboard with all your thoughts first. Just get the story out there and it will start to flow eventually. Don't stress on making it perfect the first time you write it because otherwise you'll never get past the first paragraph. The beginning of any story is the hardest part to write and probably where so many people give up, so do something quite basic to begin with and then end up enhancing it afterwards. Get a place, maybe a time, and a couple of people in there to set the vibe of the story and get a little part of your world going. Then as you go along you'll find it so much easier to figure out what's going next.

I bash all my stories out in one sitting so i'm not the best at helping really with new writers, but that's what I did with my bigger ones to begin with. Slow and steady wins the race!

And don't cater your writing to appeal to the most people. Write what you want. It's YOUR story. Not anyone else's. Write whatever the hell you want. Even if it's really niche. People will come and enjoy.
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Re: Writing things you think a budding vore writer should av

Postby msmyriam » Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:03 am

1. Don't shy away from writing what you like if it's not popular, or if people consider it a turn-off. As long as it's tagged (and warned at the beginning if it's particularly intense), people who don't like it will know to stay away.

2. Start off with stories that only have a couple characters, since having a lot can get out of hand very quickly. When I do have lots of characters, it sometimes helps me to draw a floor-plan diagram so I can visualize where everyone is while I write the scene.

3. Vary your sentence lengths. It's fine if you have some sentences that go on and on, even for a whole paragraph, and might technically be run-ons, with a ton of comma splices and em dashes and other punctuation (if it wasn't, I'd be in big trouble). Just write some short sentences for balance. I wouldn't obsess over this, but it does tend to increase readability.

4. I personally believe everyone should post their stories in pdf format, but do what you want.

5. Get right to the point. Avoid having the first five pages be all exposition, only to cram all the fetish material onto the last page. A common mantra is "start late, leave early," because beginning writers tend to write too much setup, and stay in a scene too long after it's finished. This will take practice, it's definitely a rule you can bend with fetish writing, but it's worth considering if a story isn't quite working. One test I like to use is to try to make sure there's vore or fetish content on the first page of every story. Even if it's just a flashback or some worldbuilding, it keeps people interested and reading for what comes next.

6. In elementary school, I remember them telling me to never use the word "said" in my writing because it was boring. But shortly after I started publishing my writing here, I looked through a chapter of a book I liked to see which verbs the author used. A lot of the dialogue didn't have a verb. The verbs that were there were usually said/told/replied/asked. It was pretty rare that a verb like whispered/murmured/shouted was used, which makes sense. Overusing "murmured" in your work makes it less impactful when someone actually does murmur. I would avoid going too crazy with alternatives to "said" unless it's necessary. Don't overuse "said," but also don't worry too much about using it. Definitely don't stop writing and spend fifteen minutes on thesaurus dot com looking for the perfect verb, unless you enjoy that. And don't be afraid to just not attribute your dialogue. Honestly, if the reader can't tell who's speaking from what they're saying, sometimes it's a problem with the dialogue itself.

7. The adverbs thing that others have mentioned.

8. If you have a tendency to think of ideas faster than you can write them, keep a notebook of some kind. Mine is a private discord server with different channels and threads for story ideas. I love it because I have it on my phone and can write a quick note if I think of something while I'm out, and it's easy to include images or links as reference.

Last thing to avoid is perfectionism, especially when it comes to rules other people have given you. If you think it's good, it's good, and the best way to improve is to write more.
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Re: Writing things you think a budding vore writer should av

Postby Scratch » Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:21 am

msmyriam wrote:6. In elementary school, I remember them telling me to never use the word "said" in my writing because it was boring. But shortly after I started publishing my writing here, I looked through a chapter of a book I liked to see which verbs the author used. A lot of the dialogue didn't have a verb. The verbs that were there were usually said/told/replied/asked. It was pretty rare that a verb like whispered/murmured/shouted was used, which makes sense. Overusing "murmured" in your work makes it less impactful when someone actually does murmur. I would avoid going too crazy with alternatives to "said" unless it's necessary. Don't overuse "said," but also don't worry too much about using it. Definitely don't stop writing and spend fifteen minutes on thesaurus dot com looking for the perfect verb, unless you enjoy that. And don't be afraid to just not attribute your dialogue. Honestly, if the reader can't tell who's speaking from what they're saying, sometimes it's a problem with the dialogue itself.


This is a great piece of advice for two reasons, first the need to write clearly and quickly in short stories means using the simplest words is always desirable, don't try to show off or get hung on 'pet words' that you think are neat but actually pull the reader out of the narrative. Writing is very similar to hypnotism, you want to lull the reader into a slight hypnagogic state to improve their imagination, and using language that doesn't make them pull out a dictionary, or even worse disagree with how you used the word, is part of achieving that. Also writing within a certain vernacular or conversational pattern of speech, as if the narrator is themselves a distinct character, helps immensely. A good trick to achieve that is to speak the writing out loud, and note anything that doesn't roll off the tongue naturally or makes you pause. When your reader is reading for the first time they're 'hearing' the story in their head exactly as you wrote it, and will pick up on the same thing.

Second because it's always the best course to ignore what anyone says and just read a book from a major author if you get hung up on anything mechanical. Reread sections of prose from a technical point of view rather than just a reader gaining information, actually note how dialogue is structured and paragraphs are arranged and the word choice used. I remember getting confused about my dialogue at one point on a commission (always feeling like it was stilted and I was using 'said' too much) and out of frustration grabbing Jaws off a shelf and looking at how Benchley had written his dialogue, and it was reassuring enough to realize it didn't have to always be 'different' to work helped me get through the rest of the story.

I wanted to add to my advice too: when it comes to characters, don't just throw a random OC or IP into a story and leave them at a description. I see a lot of stories where people have pre-made characters in a story that just sort of 'are' and get right into the action, where it's hard to feel any sort of connection to the characters or the scene because I would have to basically know them beforehand. Assume your reader has never met your character before, and have them actually live inside of the story you're writing (ie have them engaged in their life during or at the beginning of the story, not just magically appearing in a room), and reveal them. You don't have to tell their lifestory either, just write them in a way where who they are, what they're doing and how they act is a function of the story they're in.

If you create characters like that, their motivations become more concrete and their interactions with eachother more meaningful. Vore is all about a final interaction so creating these strong characters makes that interaction more meaningful. It also gives more room for the story to have tension and buildup, which is another thing a lot of vore stories sort of stumble around, either excluding it or hanging on the tension and never really releasing it.
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Re: Writing things you think a budding vore writer should av

Postby Mouthful » Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:02 pm

I think the best rule of writing advice is to ignore most all of the writing advice other people give you. I’ve read every reply here and if you tried to compile all the must-do and never-do suggestions into one comprehensive how-to guide to writing you’d crack your brain in half trying to follow all the rules. ‘This is porn. Nobody cares about the grammar!’ ‘Bad grammar is the only thing that will kill a story!’ There’s no ‘one-size-fits-all’ in either art or sex and these stories sit smack dab in the intersection of those two roads.

My bit of advice that you should probably also ignore? Never write something to make other people happy. Write something that makes you happy.
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Re: Writing things you think a budding vore writer should av

Postby Cuddlekins » Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:27 pm

Don't expect yourself to be an amazing writer the minute you put pen to paper. People like to say "your first story will suck" but I hate that since it sounds so discouraging right off the bat. Instead I'd say: you should be able to look at your first story years later and say, "wow, this I've improved so much!"

Just, think of the stuff you've read. What do you like about them? What don't you like? Try to keep that in mind when writing your own stuff. Then, as you write more and read more your style will eventually blossom into something that's... more you. Some people like to outline, and some like to write off the cuff, and some somewhere in the middle. Find what you like best and don't let anyone tell you one or the other is the "correct" way (lookin' at you, Stephen King...)

Also, while you'll get a lot of contradictory and/or not-so-great advice, I wouldn't say ignore it outright. Sometimes people have the right idea, but don't quite put it into the right words. For example, "Show, don't tell" doesn't mean you should never ever just imply or gloss over any action, but it's important to know what aspects of the characters/setting/etc are best seen to be believed.

But really, just read and write. It's an art, not a science. Don't get discouraged and you'll be a good writer in time!
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Re: Writing things you think a budding vore writer should av

Postby Scratch » Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:26 pm

Mouthful wrote:I think the best rule of writing advice is to ignore most all of the writing advice other people give you. I’ve read every reply here and if you tried to compile all the must-do and never-do suggestions into one comprehensive how-to guide to writing you’d crack your brain in half trying to follow all the rules. ‘This is porn. Nobody cares about the grammar!’ ‘Bad grammar is the only thing that will kill a story!’ There’s no ‘one-size-fits-all’ in either art or sex and these stories sit smack dab in the intersection of those two roads.

My bit of advice that you should probably also ignore? Never write something to make other people happy. Write something that makes you happy.


I don't think it's wise to just ignore advice. Everyone contributing has had an experience in writing, and what they're saying is valid to them even if it doesn't match what other people are saying. The mistake is in thinking that advice will make up for the raw process of actually writing and trying to improve yourself. The only way to 'lose' is to stop trying.

As far as the grammar thing goes I will just say this, a good story won't stop being good because of grammar, and good drammar won't save a bad story. When it comes to short stories specifically as well, if you go and read actual published short stories you'll come across all sorts of 'grammar errors' (especially sentence fragments) that are done for stylistic or vernacular purposes. Overly perfect 'grammar' sometimes just slows down stories, and a lot of young writers get into a trap early on of getting lost in rewriting and trying to make each sentence and paragraph full and perfect, and ending up with something that's completely bloated.

Just to point to my own experience: one of the books I got early on was "creating short fiction" by Damon Knight. I read through it and it did not instantly make me a better writer, and some of the advice was irrelevant considering the guy was writing in the 60s on telelvision shows. But over the years specific things from the book have popped up in my mind as I deal with various challenges in writing.

in essence: listen to everyone, believe no one; and you have to know the rules before you can know how and when to break them.
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