Can it ever be NOT sexual for you?

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Re: Can it ever be NOT sexual for you?

Postby Edibility » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:37 am

Its a fetish and inherently sexual, I dont really understand all these kinda people claiming to be "asexual" and enjoying vore. Even if they claim no arousal, their body is probably reacting with arousal in some unnoticeable way biologically. Vore has always been about sex for me, so perhaps im biased, but I feel people need to accept its a sexual fetish and not try to justify it as otherwise, as if theyre ashamed of having it. I mean sure dont share it publically or with people not into the fetish as you shouldnt with any of these kind of things, but dont try to fool yourself either.
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Re: Can it ever be NOT sexual for you?

Postby yetra » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:51 am

Edibility wrote:Its a fetish and inherently sexual, I dont really understand all these kinda people claiming to be "asexual" and enjoying vore. Even if they claim no arousal, their body is probably reacting with arousal in some unnoticeable way biologically. Vore has always been about sex for me, so perhaps im biased, but I feel people need to accept its a sexual fetish and not try to justify it as otherwise, as if theyre ashamed of having it. I mean sure dont share it publically or with people not into the fetish as you shouldnt with any of these kind of things, but dont try to fool yourself either.


The whole point of a fetish is being turned on by something that's not inherently sexual. PIV sex is pretty inherently sexual but you wouldn't say someone had a PIV fetish, would you?

You seem to be treating asexuality like it needs to be some kind of immunity to sexual feelings. But sexual orientation is about who you're attracted to, not whether you can be sexually aroused at all. Plenty of asexual folks still masturbate, just like guys can touch their own dicks without it making them gay. Many even have fetishes, just ones that don't actually correlate with wanting to have sexual contact with anyone. "Fantasy doesn't necessarily correlate with what you like in real life" is like the mantra of this community so let's be consistent.

Even the word arousal can refer to any state of heightened physical alertness and emotional awareness, you know? Fight-or-flight responses are a type of arousal, and plenty of people like horror movies. Vore as a trope is so incredibly diverse and shows up in all sorts of places, so do you really think out of the seven billion people on this godforsaken planet that the only two possible ways anyone could react to it are disgust and fetishization? You don't think there's anything else potentially interesting or enjoyable about it?
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Re: Can it ever be NOT sexual for you?

Postby EnderDracolich » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:12 pm

157and493 wrote:If you ARE sexually attracted to vore, like I am, is it possible for you to see it in a non-sexual way?


Yeah. Quite often, I can see Vore and not feel any arousal. It really depends on my mood.
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Re: Can it ever be NOT sexual for you?

Postby DiamondM » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:56 pm

I think about this a lot, and recently became aware there's folks who see vore imagery as just.. nice to look at? And not feel aroused by seeing it.
I know there's parts of the community that strictly enjoy the safe aspects and would rather not interact with the majority that see it as a fetish that turns them on. I started using tumblr to answer asks lately and stumbled onto several vore and g/t blogs that describe themselves as rebloggers of "safe/non-sexual" things write paragraph long posts about how they don't like being associated with the side of the community that does see it as a proper fetish. I reeeally don't think the kinksters and casuals mix on this and probably think it would be better if they... didn't interact.

I'm a very introspective dude, so the idea of someone liking vore while not being turned on by it isn't that much of an impossibility to me. Yeah
years ago when I didn't fully grasp the scope of how many different kinds of preferences in people there were I might have said "uh well it's a fetish which is inherently sexual so that doesn't make sense", which would be a really close-minded thing to say.

All of that said, since I am turned on by it, Vore can't really be non-sexual for me except for aspects with in it that turn me off (i.e.different gender pairings, digestion, explicit vs. implied, scat or no scat, etc. ) The thing is I'm aroused by depictions of both safe (non-sexual) vore and vore created to be erotica. Like if you were to show me a friendly/caring pred eating someone to protect them it'd do about the same if you showed me a pred and prey pair (consensual or not) getting off during it.
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Re: Can it ever be NOT sexual for you?

Postby Artemis » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:07 pm

You should give the trope some credit. Some people watch movies with people getting eaten in them and they enjoy it not because it's sexy, but because it's frigging awesome and hardcore. Although not EVERYONE has enough self-control to do this, getting turned on at literally any vore no matter how sexualized it is or isn't, it's perfectly possible for voraphiles to enjoy content that way too. Plus, there's a certain humor to the more cartoonish and silly way soft vore tends to work.
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Re: Can it ever be NOT sexual for you?

Postby NyaatoShiroi » Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:13 am

This can be sexual and nonsexual at times, and I am mostly sexually interested in fatal and possessive vore, but sometimes other types/scenarios/etc may interest me in nonsexual meaning, so it's both to me depending on mood.
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Re: Can it ever be NOT sexual for you?

Postby Zangoose » Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:19 pm

It very much depends for me. If it's same-sized? Absolutely not. I always see it as sexual, no matter what. It's what turns me on, so I can't ever imagine it in a non-sexual context.

For everything else? Unless it's blatantly sexual, I see it as either funny, WAFF, or even romantic. Then again, my tastes in same-size and macro-micro are heavily different in a lot of ways, so it was inevitable that I see them very differently in this context too.

I guess the best way to explain how I feel about it is that same-size vore is a fetish for me, while I just think macro-micro is just a punchline or a very extreme form of cuddling.
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Re: Can it ever be NOT sexual for you?

Postby rugli » Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:31 am

Short answer: No
Long answer: No
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Re: Can it ever be NOT sexual for you?

Postby ReptileKing23 » Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:06 am

It's sexual fetish, if you google the definition of Vorarephilia it says; "Erotic Fantasy" erotic=SEX, therefore it's practically impossible for it to be non-sexual
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Re: Can it ever be NOT sexual for you?

Postby empatheticapathy » Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:40 am

Yeah, if I'm not in the mood, it's not sexy to me.
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Re: Can it ever be NOT sexual for you?

Postby Sitharc » Fri Aug 06, 2021 4:11 am

Yes it can be, very easily too.

As for me, a lot of the time?... Vore is just a type of scene just like other fetish content are for me, I don't get turned on by every example I see, even if said examples are the type of content I actually like seeing in vore content.

Sometimes it can be sexual or the overall scenario and/or other kinks involved is instead, but not always.

I can just find it funny and/or cool that somehow such a scene can occur! I don't HAVE to be turned on by it, least not to such a point that I have to fap to it or whatever.

It especially helps for roleplaying to be able to enjoy it non sexually at times as well, as trust me, it's irksome when enjoying a good RP or even a chat and it randomly ends because your partner only sees it as sexual and can only do the scenes till they've climaxed then you have to wait for them to be in the mood and ready again. Which, depending on the case and person, you might be waiting a good while to continue your scene. If the both of you are even still in the mood for that scene when that comes. I just want to play the scene and ideally finish whatever scenario and story we had agreed on, sucks when the fun has to end early because of that and chance never getting to resume it.
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Re: Can it ever be NOT sexual for you?

Postby blergle » Fri Aug 06, 2021 4:54 am

Yeah, quite often in fact, and it's one of my favorite kinks to get sexual with. But sometimes if I'm not in a sexual mood I can still enjoy vore stories or comics or what have you, as horror media. I only enjoy scary vore anyway and it is the one offshoot of the horror genre that is a kink for me, but it can also just be entertainment. And if it doesn't fit my personal preferences, it's *always* going to be nonsexual even if I like the story or picture. There are a lot of stories in my Favorites that aren't sexy to me for one reason or another (like anything with boobs or a vajayjay involved, or willing prey) but are quality writing that I enjoy reading because they're good stories.
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Re: Can it ever be NOT sexual for you?

Postby TSaPA » Fri Aug 06, 2021 5:54 am

Sometimes arousing, sometimes horrifying, sometimes comical, sometimes oddly adorable. Really depends on a case-by-case basis.
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Re: Can it ever be NOT sexual for you?

Postby Scratch » Fri Aug 06, 2021 10:42 am

People need to define what they mean by sexual.

Are you talking about arousal which results in physiological responses (just to get to the point: boners and/or moistness, or in general an erotic response) or are you talking about the mixing of gonads between two separate entities?

Cause the questions pretty impossible to answer otherwise. Vore is inherently asexual, in that it doesn't involve traditional sexual copulation, and at the same time it involves actions that usually create a sexual response in people. Not just physical touching, or oral stimulation, but also control, entering of another's body, possession, violation of personal space/barriers, etc. So I can see a person who doesn't seek out sexual relations with other people masturbating to vore as something 'nonsexual,' but still being sexually aroused by it. I can also see people who maybe like the art or topic for action/general reasons.

But it's really weird to see people who are claiming that vore isn't a sexual fetish, or that they're bothered being associated with it as a sexual fetish, when it's been a sexual fetish since the first websites about gay giants eating men started to appear. It seems like a response from people who either have a phobia or feel shame about sex/fetishes in general and not wanting to be associated with 'bad stuff' even as they engage in it. I don't mind if they see things differently but casting the huge majority of people who like vore as a sexual thing as some sort of 'sexualization' of an 'originally benign interest' is disengenuise to the core and comes off as moralizing judgement as a tactic of deflection from one's own personal issues...
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Re: Can it ever be NOT sexual for you?

Postby PINGASsien » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:12 pm

Yes. When I watch cartoons (I'm a big child lol) or an animal/monster/non human thing pred vore art, I feel nothing (or maybe almost sometimes) . If I see male preds (human, monster, anthro monster and anthro animal) art, it turns me off, but there's exeptions :
-If I'm rping a pred male (if I' m not human-like or not mammal-like)
-If I'm rping a pred male reptilian-like creature (dragons, snake, dinosaur, pterosaur, monster...) or many things but mammal-like
- If I see a snake/reptilian-like/monster creature art.
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Re: Can it ever be NOT sexual for you?

Postby GramzonTheDragon » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:22 pm

157and493 wrote:If you ARE sexually attracted to vore, like I am, is it possible for you to see it in a non-sexual way?
For me it is impossible to ever see vore as anything other than sexual, that is why watching Attack On Titan feels like watching very over dramatic gay porn to me... I am straight though so all it does is make me feel very uncomfortable.

Whenever any form of media involves vore, whether it was intended to be sexual or not, I am affected by it whether I like it or hate it.

Is anyone else like this?

It usually feels sexual but even in roleplay i cant find some parts non-sexy. such as a utility endo (im a fatal only kind of person) or a comedic vore.
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Re: Can it ever be NOT sexual for you?

Postby Jacquelope » Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:45 am

157and493 wrote:If you ARE sexually attracted to vore, like I am, is it possible for you to see it in a non-sexual way?
For me it is impossible to ever see vore as anything other than sexual, that is why watching Attack On Titan feels like watching very over dramatic gay porn to me... I am straight though so all it does is make me feel very uncomfortable.

Whenever any form of media involves vore, whether it was intended to be sexual or not, I am affected by it whether I like it or hate it.

Is anyone else like this?

Vore that leads to death is something I depict as terrifying, not erotic. I see erotic potential in painless unbirth that ends in reformation. Especially when intimacy is involved. Stuff in media is kinda meh. I hope it stays "meh" because I'd hate to see this go mainstream, even unbirth. Attack on Titan has about the same effect on me as it does you, plus it unpleasantly scratches that fear of mine about vore going mainstream. I don't want to imagine the mechanics of vore becoming a common topic of discussion as a fetish. I just see there's a really bad genie sitting in that bottle that we should not uncork.

Of course I could be wrong, hentai is sub-mainstream and shit hasn't gone nuts.
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Re: Can it ever be NOT sexual for you?

Postby Ixtili » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:14 pm

Yes but at that point I would not classify the scenario as fetishistic. Real instances of eating are not sexual to me, nor are the vast majority of voracious scenes in media though in the case of the latter the media could inspire me to recreate the scenario in my mind with more of a vore focus. As a rule I'm more turned on by actual Vore content that treats the act of consumption as though it has a sexual or metaphysical element. Content deliberately made for voreophiles.
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Re: Can it ever be NOT sexual for you?

Postby Vorachist22 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:33 pm

I only find vore sexual.
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Re: Can it ever be NOT sexual for you?

Postby SecretBaboon » Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:41 pm

Vore is usually just a step away from being full-on horror. Yes, you can be turned on by something that you're afraid of, but that's not the case with everyone. Someone who has never seen anything related to vore in any capacity and then sees it for the first time, I'm willing to bet their initial reaction isn't gonna be "I'm very turned on right now", and more likely "that person is gonna die in a very graphic way".

Calling something "vore" automatically has sexual intonations, since that's the name of a fetish. The idea of eating someone can be used as a trope to advance a story with no sexual attachments at all, but then it's not "vore". It's just a storytelling facet.

In a similar vein, there are some real-life examples of humans partaking in what can be considered vore, although it's in a rather metaphorical sense most of the time. With Christianity, the idea of communion is "taking the body and blood of Christ". Even though it's usually just wafers and wine, the concept is rather vore-like. I would guess that even Christian voraphiles who partake in communion wouldn't see it as something sexual.

TL;DR: Describing something as "vore" gives it sexual tones, but the act of consuming someone whole doesn't always qualify as vore.
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